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To: SoothingDave
I posted because I hate to see Christians fight among themselves over an issue like this. We waste all of our time fighting each other and trying to convert each other, when we should spend our time spreading the gospel to non-Christians. If we are Christians, we are going to Heaven anyway. We need to take as many people to Heaven with us as possible. This argument is does nothing to help us do that.
176 posted on 06/24/2003 8:30:40 AM PDT by ACAC
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To: ACAC
I posted because I hate to see Christians fight among themselves over an issue like this. We waste all of our time fighting each other and trying to convert each other, when we should spend our time spreading the gospel to non-Christians. If we are Christians, we are going to Heaven anyway. We need to take as many people to Heaven with us as possible. This argument is does nothing to help us do that.

I understand your position.

On the other hand, there are folks on either side of this debate who do not share your assurance that all are "Christians" who are all destined for Heaven.

On the contrary, it can be said that the belief in this "Fairy tale" of perpetual virginity is evidence of the Catholic being slavishly devoted to his institution and lacking the faith in the Bible alone and Jesus alone as required for salvation.

On the other side, the persistent denial of this virginity and the Church that teaches it and other Traditional Christian ideas is thought to emperil the soul of the "just plain" Christian believer.

So either side has sincere motives to make the other side see the danger in its beleifs.

SD

182 posted on 06/24/2003 8:38:18 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ACAC
If we are Christians, we are going to Heaven anyway.

Apparently familiarity with the Bible is not a necessity in your belief?

Matthee 7.21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

All Christians going to heaven my foot.

187 posted on 06/24/2003 8:44:05 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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