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To: SoothingDave
Tradition: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart. -- Catechism 847

Scripture: As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. -- Romans 3:10-12

***Scripture and Tradition are not mutually exclusive.***

Here's an interesting test case.

***It is a traditional understanding of the Scripture, the nature of salvation and the nature of God. I know that the Calvinists's God has a different nature, which we regard as capracious. It all stems from there.***

Your problem is with Jesus, Peter and Paul... not Calvin.

60 posted on 06/23/2003 12:58:57 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej
In post 42 I said:

You will respond that all enelected men are entirely dead and that nothing that they do is pleasing to God.

I see you finally got around to it.

Your problem is with Jesus, Peter and Paul... not Calvin.

Again, the vanity of the Protestant, elevating his PIOS to be divine.

No, Steve, my problem is witht he Calvinist approach to these things. Not with Scripture. Let's look at your Scripture:

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. -- Romans 3:10-12

Well, reading that, I guess we are all screwed. There must be something more that is behind the Gospel message, no? It's not just "no one is righteous, not one, nobody, full stop, none."

This passage you quote begs for an "except...."

SD

61 posted on 06/23/2003 1:04:53 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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