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To: Pahuanui
No the claptrap is what you have just asserted: that history does not affirm Christ's miracles. What rationalists do when they claim this is to reason backwards. Since they believe miracles can't happen, they come to the conclusion the Gospels must lack historical validity. But this contradicts the rules of the historical methods used for determining the historicity of other ancient documents. The Gospels clearly deserve to be judged like these, not according to rules especially devised to deal specifically with them.


44 posted on 06/23/2003 11:06:25 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
No the claptrap is what you have just asserted: that history does not affirm Christ's miracles.

Ah, excellent. I eagerly await your historical sources of proof for walking on water, loaves and fishes, etc.... Please do not utilize self-referential documents, since that would defeat the purpose. Further, please explain with this evidence the extraordinarily close parallels between the biblical accounts and those of Buddhism that predate them by 500 years.

What rationalists do when they claim this is to reason backwards. Since they believe miracles can't happen, they come to the conclusion the Gospels must lack historical validity.

Who is making that claim here? I am asserting nothing either for or against the possibility of miracles. What I stated is that there is no historical evidence for them.

But this contradicts the rules of the historical methods used for determining the historicity of other ancient documents. The Gospels clearly deserve to be judged like these, not according to rules especially devised to deal specifically with them.

You are conflating the Gospels with teh miracles attributed to Christ.

49 posted on 06/23/2003 11:29:25 AM PDT by Pahuanui (when A Foolish Man Hears The tao, He Laughs Out Loud.)
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