[drstevej]

We know more, biblically, about Paul's relationship with the Trinity than Mary's.

When you remove the conjectures and legends surrounding MAry there is not enough biblical evidence to make the claim. I could speculate about the intimacy of Jesus with Joseph, but it would be just that.

[sitetest]

Dear drstevej,

We know more about St. Paul, generally, than about Mary, but what we know about Mary tells us about her intimacy with the Trinity.

After all, not too many folks have been chosen by God the Father to have conceived and borne the Incarnate Word by the power of the Holy Spirit. That is a level of intimacy with the three Persons of the Trinity that others would find difficult to match.

This is intimacy beyond that which any other human has ever experienced.

In terms of an intimate relationship with the three Persons of the Trinity, St. Paul has nothing on the Mother of God.


sitetest

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

Paul didn't conceive, give birth to, nurse, or care physically, socially and spiritually for Jesus Christ. The Blessed Mother did. Why do you hold an opinion that is such a radical departure from that of the founders of your movement? Prior to Pauls' encounter with Christ on the road to Damascus, can you describe in detail the intimate relationship he had with the Trinity?

"It cannot be denied that God in choosing and destining Mary to be the Mother of His Son, granted her the highest honor.... Elizabeth calls Mary Mother of the Lord, because of the unity of the person in the two natures of Christ was such that she could have said that the mortal man engendered in the womb of Mary was at the same time the eternal God"
John Calvin: Calvini Opera, Corpus Reformatorum, Braunschweig-Berlin, 1863-1900, Vol. 45, page 335 and 348.

"In this work whereby she was made the Mother of God, so many and such good things were given her that no one can grasp them.... Not only was Mary the mother of Him who is born [in Bethlehem], but of Him who, before the world, was eternally born of the Father, from a Mother in time and at the same time man and God."
Martin Luther: Weimer, The Works of Luther, English translation by Pelikan, Concordia, St. Louis, Vol. 7, page 572.

"It was given to her what belongs to no creature, that in the flesh she should bring forth the Son of God."
Ulrich Zwingli: Zwingli Opera, Corpus Reformatum, Berlin, 1905, in Evang. Luc., Op. Comp, Vol. 6, I, page 639.