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To: NYer
"Catholicism is about obedience and faith."

No, obedience is way down on the list of virtues. It is primarily, above all else, about THE FAITH. The New Church suppresses and subverts the faith. It is to be resisted. And as Pius IX advised, "If a pope should ask you to deny the faith, do not follow him."
7 posted on 06/08/2003 6:12:56 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio; Ippolita; Theosis; holyh2o
The New Church

New? Church! The Catholic Church is 2,000 years old ... hardly qualifies as new.

The New Church suppresses and subverts the faith.

It is evident that you have not read through the entire dialogue posted at the link, provided by Theosis. Consider this ....

" have you ever considered that John Paul is using his papal office to speak influentially to people of other religions? He does so by forging alliances with the leaders of these religions in order to consolidate and protect the Christians from extreme elements within these religions. This is how geo-politics works. We have no way of knowing the imminent dangers and threats which exist in these religions. Islam and Hinduism are hotbeds of extremism right now, and the Pope knows better than anyone else that this sucker might blow us all to smitherenes. And this is not just hot air, Robert. Just this week I heard a very high prominent Muslim cleric telling Muslims to cool their jets against the Christians and guess who he cited for his comments? Drum roll please...John Paul II. "

Islam and Hinduism are hotbeds of extremism right now, and the Pope knows better than anyone else that this sucker might blow us all to smitherenes

"forging alliances", "geo-politics" - the world is in turmoil and this pope, despite his age, is working to forge alliances in order to prevent the self-destruction of humanity.

8 posted on 06/08/2003 6:29:11 PM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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