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To: sandyeggo
On WTC--here is the full quote:

"For the last fourteen hundred years Mohammedans, whether Saracens or Arabs or Moors or Turks, have served God as a scourge to punish faithless Christians, or slack Christendom. When Catholics are fervent, God can grant them miraculous victories over the Mohammedans, as at the sea-battle of Lepanto in 1571. When Catholics are slack, God can allow the very survival of their nations to be threatened, as now, by birth-rates in Europe, by terrorism in the USA. When Spanish Catholics were slack in the 700's, God allowed the Jews to betray Spain to the Arabs. When Spanish Catholics were truly Catholic, God granted them by 1492 to reconquer Spain from the Arabs, and then granted them to create a Catholic empire in the Americas. Either way, God writes straight with crooked lines for the salvation of souls.

"The Jews are a similar case. As early as 200 the Church author Tertullian remarked that as Catholic faith goes up, so Jewish power goes down, while as Catholic faith goes down, so Jewish power goes up. In the Catholic Middle Ages the Jews we're relatively impotent to harm Christendom, but as Catholics have grown over the centuries since then weaker and weaker in the faith, especially since Vatican II, so the Jews have come closer and closer to fulfilling their substitute-Messianic drive towards world dominion.

"If we return for a moment to politics, the United States is now caught precisely between these two scourges of God. Unquestionably one main grievance of Arabs against the United States, provoking their terrorists to lash out as we have seen, is the United States' one-sided favoring of Israel over the Arabs for the last forty years. But each time the United States attempts to act even-handedly towards the Arabs, Jewish power inside the United States - e.g. virtual control of finance and the media - blocks the attempt, and the United States returns to oppressing the Arabs.

"This problem of the United States is politically insoluble, because it is a religious problem! The United States is caught between these two scourges of God, because it has turned away from God. God chastises those whom He loves (Heb. XII, 6), so that if God were not now chastising the United States, it would be the proof not that He loved, but that He did not love the United States! Let us be grateful that God is using Arab and Jew to chastise us! And let us therefore, with no thought of hating Arab or Jew, because they are NOT the real problem, turn to the real problem, which is the sins by which we offend God."

Again, I do not ascribe to these views--but they are not anti-Semitic strictly speaking. If anything, they are biased against other religions, the Islamic and the Judaic. Williamson's reading is toxic, perhaps, but not crazy. Any Catholic is free to disagree--and most do, including most traditionalists.
155 posted on 06/04/2003 6:29:24 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: ultima ratio
In the Catholic Middle Ages the Jews we're relatively impotent to harm Christendom, but as Catholics have grown over the centuries since then weaker and weaker in the faith, especially since Vatican II, so the Jews have come closer and closer to fulfilling their substitute-Messianic drive towards world dominion.

You don't find this to be anti-semitic? It's the old "Protocols of Zion" point of view.

Go here to see how well Williamson seems to know the "Protocols," one of the most anti-semitic, conspiratorial screeds ever written.

157 posted on 06/04/2003 6:41:31 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: ultima ratio; sinkspur; sandyeggo
Dear ultima,

Oh, heck, ultima, you left out the very best part of the WTC dreck:

"That is a religious and not a political calculation. Man proposes, God disposes. On the political level, we can be virtually certain that the vile media will not tell us the full story. There is serious reason to believe--that in 1898, it was not the Spaniards who sank the 'USS Maine'; that in 1917, it was not the Germans who set up the "Lusitania" as a target; that in 1941 it was not the Japanese who set up Pearl Harbor for attack; that in 1963 it was not Lee Harvey Oswald who killed President Kennedy. In 1990 it was certainly not Saddam Hussein who promised not to react if he invaded Kuwait. In 1994 it was certainly not Timothy McVeigh's van exploding outside the Alfred Murrah building in Oklahoma City which brought the front of the building down. In 2001...? Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, now Osama bin Laden, from CIA-assets to personal enemies of the American people -how many more times will the trick work?"

This crackpot sounds more like the leader of some nutjob Aryan Nation or Christian Identity group rather than a "catholic" bishop. Heck, if I didn't know better, I'd think that Oliver Stone was writing his material!

Listen, if you want to defend him, be my guest. If you want to say that this dreck isn't off the wall, be my guest.

Or, I could be wrong and you're really not offended by this sewage!

The Catholics here think the guy is a basket-case.

sitetest

160 posted on 06/04/2003 6:46:10 PM PDT by sitetest (I laughed, I cried, but mostly I cried. :-( Some people actually take this wackjob seriously.)
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