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To: sandyeggo
This will never happen. I realize there are some monarchists among us who feel monarchy has definite advantages over a republican constitutional government, but it could only be wishful thinking, and never reality. Not in the USA.

With God, anything is possible. That's why I don't dwell on it too much. But I don't discount the possibility, even if many consider it wishful thinking.

If we return for a moment to politics, the United States is now caught precisely between these two scourges of God. Unquestionably one main grievance of Arabs against the United States, provoking their terrorists to lash out as we have seen, is the United States' one-sided favoring of Israel over the Arabs for the last forty years. But each time the United States attempts to act even-handedly towards the Arabs, Jewish power inside the United States - e.g. virtual control of finance and the media - blocks the attempt, and the United States returns to oppressing the Arabs.

I wonder what it is that (generally) people in the U.S. are doing or not doing that gives rise to the tug-of-war phenomenon. I believe that non-intervention is the best policy. But somehow this country gets into other countries' affairs - something one would easily notice during World War I. Had it stayed out of that conflict, things may have been better for the U.S.

Other things to consider are how we, over the decades, have done things to compromise our faith in this country. Remember the Americanist heresy? It had to have been taught to many people, otherwise a certain pope would not have said anything. Catholicism is not a branch of Christianity, it is synonymous with Christianity. Too many people live as if it were a branch or denomination, and this contributes to the growing religious indifferentism which was already showing up among protestants.

I'm also just venturing a guess, but what of the prayers of the years for our leaders and lawmakers, for our court system, and so on? How many people have been doing that? I don't know if you're trying to proof-text the letter, but I have a sense you're not getting the context of the entire letter. It's just a sense for right now.

Regarding the Sound of Music, I would hazard a guess that the reason you can't find any decent movies these days is because you have raised the bar supernaturally high. There is nothing wrong with the Sound of Music - it's a heartwarming story based on true events. It's even set in an era prior to VII!

There were immoral movies before Vatican II. That's where the Legion of Decency came in - to let the people know which movies were safe to see. A movie which glorified violence back then and was condemned is still a problem now because the movie hasn't changed. Only the sensitivity to such immorality has changed. And that's the danger that some are falling into right now. I can now see why even conservative post-conciliar folks and even protestants say the television should be thrown out and movie-going should be limited.

There's nothing supernatural about what my standards are for movies and television. The number of anti-Catholic movies, music videos, and televisions shows grows each year. The same could be said of programs which advance "racial" stereotypes. And of course, those movies and shows with occult themes cloaked inside. I don't see why any support should be given to such "entertainment". Do you?

To assign murderous intent to her based on her apparel is calumny.

Let's ask the question then about today's [modernist] clothes then. Do you not agree it at the very least provides for the occasion of sin? If so, do you see where seductive clothing could lead to? Likely immoral behavior. On the spiritual side, since you want to talk about "murderous intent", let us consider how many people potentially could be dragged to hell: the woman wearing immodest clothes and those men who looked at her and mentally picturing adulterous scenarios. It would be foolish to think men are always strong enough to fight these temptations and what not, and it is ludicrous to even think that wearing clothes is a private matter and doesn't affect the other people out there.

People have committed crimes because of what others wear: robbery, homicide, hostage-taking, for instance. All because someone wanted to stay "up-to-date", someone thought that next door neighbor was "so, so fine", and more. Modesty keeps those "weird feelings" in check, and also contributes to maintaining order, not just between two people, but also in society.

Our Lady has said on at least two occasions that many people will not make it to heaven because of "sins of the flesh". Immodest clothing an initiator of such stuff. That was true then. Still is true now.

114 posted on 06/04/2003 2:38:25 PM PDT by huskyboy (Introibo ad altare Dei; non ad altare hominis!)
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To: huskyboy
People have committed crimes because of what others wear: robbery, homicide, hostage-taking, for instance. All because someone wanted to stay "up-to-date", someone thought that next door neighbor was "so, so fine", and more. Modesty keeps those "weird feelings" in check, and also contributes to maintaining order, not just between two people, but also in society.

I suppose rape victims are responsible for being raped, in your warped mind.

Men have had impure thoughts about women since time began, whether women wore burquas, mummus, shorts or habits.

It's quite another thing to try to spread the blame for a criminal act by a criminal to a victim. If a man wants to put his hands on a woman, he's going to put his hands on her, no matter what she's wearing.

That's what criminals do; to them, physical assault is an act of violence, not uncontrolled passion.

You and Williamson seem to have some issues of your own regarding sexuality. Most mature men can admire an attractive woman, and move on.

Leering is something high school sophomores and puritans do.

115 posted on 06/04/2003 3:08:47 PM PDT by sinkspur
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