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Foto del pontificale celebrato dal card. Darío Castrillón Hoyos nella basilica di S. Maria Maggiore
Una Voce Venetia ^ | May 28, 2003 | Una Voce Venetia

Posted on 05/29/2003 7:44:13 PM PDT by Dajjal

 

 

 

Foto del pontificale celebrato dal card. Darío Castrillón Hoyos nella basilica di S. Maria Maggiore - 24 maggio 2003

 

 

   

 

             

 

 

 

             

 

 

 
             
   

 

   

 

 

 

 

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TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: ecclesiadei; latin; traditionalmass; vatican
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1 posted on 05/29/2003 7:44:13 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Salvation; maryz; narses; ultima ratio; american colleen; Aquinasfan; Scupoli; Maximilian; ...
Traditional Mass ping

But, as Ultima Ratio said elsewhere, "One swallow does not make a spring." It is yet to be seen whether this is more than a Vatican novelty. I remember a few years back when Card. Stickler's saying the Traditional Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York was supposed to be the harbinger of wider usage.

http://www.unavoce-ve.it/home.htm

2 posted on 05/29/2003 8:15:07 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
What a beautiful Church. Thanks for the pictures.
3 posted on 05/29/2003 9:34:31 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Dajjal
(no comprende)
4 posted on 05/29/2003 10:50:41 PM PDT by Polycarp (STILL PROUD2bRC!!!)
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To: Polycarp
(no comprende)

It's photos of the Mass everyone's been talking about.

5 posted on 05/29/2003 11:18:32 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: Dajjal
Grazie, signore. Grazie.
6 posted on 05/30/2003 12:43:42 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Dajjal
Mille grazie per gli fotographie! Sono veramente spettacolare.
7 posted on 05/30/2003 6:23:20 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: Dajjal

Bothers me to see Cardinal Law in this setting.

I think of all of the families harmed by his negligence.

8 posted on 05/30/2003 6:32:25 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: drstevej; american colleen
Law is no friend of the Tridentine Mass! I have no doubt that some ne'er do well put him up to attending. Perhaps it was an attempt to associate Catholic tradition with the scandals of which Law is still an icon. (Of course, we all know that it is a *lack* of fidelity to the teachings of Christ that led to the scandals.)
9 posted on 05/30/2003 11:16:54 AM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS; drstevej
I'm no apologist for Cardinal Law BUT, this was a network thing with the abusing priests. Who dealt with this stuff? Bishop McCormick of NH and Bishop Daily of Brooklyn, among the rest. Take Shanley for instance... feited in the local papers (ah, Boston Globe) as a "mover and shaker" priest for years. He was a cool priest with sideburns and an engaging personality. The public loved him! He was also protected by a large number of priest friends, including McCormick who was in seminary with him and also the rest of the worst abusing priests. A lot of this stuff did not reach Cardinal Law until much later. But when it did, he obviously did the exact opposite to what any parent would do - listening to the "experts" and depending on psychologists and the other hyphen .PhD's apparently robs one of common sense.

As far as the Tridentine Mass and Cardinal Law. From what I understand, he said he would be more than happy to implement more Latin Masses if more than one or two parishioners approached him about it. He encouraged them to recruit others and come back and show there was a real call for the Latin. So we apparently couldn't do that! In my own world, I can't find one person that prefers the Latin. That said, the one Tridentine community at Holy Trinity petitioned for years in order to perform baptisms, First Communions and Confirmations. I don't know the story behind why it took so long to OK that (which Law finally did).

Was Cardinal Law orthodox? In some ways, he was. He took on Cardinal Bernardin as a lone ranger regarding the friendliness of Bernardin with Call to Action - remember Barnardin's "the Catholic Common Ground Project"? Cardinal Law told him point blank that meeting with groups like CTA was not "listening" but giving those groups legitimacy which is wrong. Cardinal Bernardin's "Called to be Catholic - Church in a time of peril" letter and Cardinal Law's response to "Called to be Catholic..." is here.

But then Cardinal Law totally weenied out of enforcing or even faking an enforcement of Ex corde Ecclesiae. He caved because (I think) of Boston College. Most of the really important Catholic$ in this area are alumni of BC and I think there might have been some sort of revolt if the mandatum had been any more than something that crossed Cardinal Law's desk on its way to the outbasket. I read his words regarding the decision to ignore it, and they were truly disappointing.

Cardinal Law also rightfully and publically called The Catholic Theological Society of America (CTSA) a "theological wasteland" his letter is a great read.

All in all, Cardinal Law was a mixed bag, like most of the Bishops are. I liked him personally, but always wished he'd follow his knowledge of Truth (I believe he was personally pretty holy) and kick butt and take names and quit being so danged "pastoral." He didn't have a whole lot of support here, either. Cardinal Cushing had big shoes to fill and Cardinal Medeiros (between both) was kind of a footnote.

10 posted on 05/30/2003 12:04:37 PM PDT by american colleen
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The sad thing is that Law was doing nothing different from what most American Bishops have been doing, and continue to do. He just didn't endear himself to the leftist movers and shakers of Boston the way Mahony did in LA. Hence Mahony gets away with it while Law fries.

Not that I mind Law frying. He deserves worse than he got. I am just a wee bit upset that a lot of Bishops far worse than Law, like Mahony, are getting away.

11 posted on 05/30/2003 12:55:40 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: ELS
Or Law was told to get with the program. Law is a chastened cardinal now and has probably shed his pride for a time. One can only hope.
12 posted on 05/30/2003 6:19:12 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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