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To: Alex Murphy; Campion
Ok, you denounce Rivera as a fraud. What about Charles Chiniquy? (No doubt the church has trashed him, also)

http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/index1/chin/fiftyc.htm

53 posted on 05/24/2003 7:12:42 PM PDT by 1 spark
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To: 1 spark
Chinquy's main doctrinal beef with the RCC seemed to be alcoholism, not idolatry or Satanism...

"...Intoxicating drinks are the curse of this young country. It is the most deadly foe of every father and mother, the most implacable enemy of every child in Canada. It is the ruin of our rich families, as well as the destruction of the poor. The use of intoxicating drinks, under any form, or pretext, is an act of supreme folly; for alcohol kills the body and damns the soul of its blind victims. You have, for the first time, raised the glorious banners of temperance among the French Canadian people; though you are alone, today, to lift it up, be not discouraged..."

"...I was forced to acknowledge that these Protestants, whom my Church had taught me, through all her councils, to anathematize and curse as the slaves and followers of Satan, were, in their principles of morality, higher above us than the heavens are above the earth! I had to confess to myself that those heretics, whom my church had taught me to consider as rebels against Christ and His Church, knew the laws of God and followed them much more closely than ourselves. They had raised themselves to the highest degree of Christian temperance, when my bishops, with their priests, were swimming in the deadly waters of drunkenness!..."
Chapter 37 from your link

56 posted on 05/24/2003 8:45:17 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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