[Arthur McGowan]

The "new Mass" became the norm on the First Sunday of Advent in 1970. Or was it 1969?

Anyway, it is NOT the restoration of the Mass that the Fathers of Vatican II had in mind. It is the Mass of the radicals--the fringe element.

Paul VI is without doubt the most destructive Pope of the last 200 years. He was a cultural vandal. Abusing his power, he ripped the heart out of Western Civilization.

[Desdemona]

Paul VI is without doubt the most destructive Pope of the last 200 years. He was a cultural vandal. Abusing his power, he ripped the heart out of Western Civilization.

He'll get the blame for it, but the reality is, it wasn't him. It was the people around him and he was too weak to stop it.