You need lecturing. You show a lot of ignorance in addition to having a penchant for responding in an aggressive, surly way. You didn't have a clue about the nature of the sacrifice of the Mass and know even less about the radical changes imposed by the Novus Ordo. You ask me continuously to prove the obvious, such as the fact that the priest's role has been converted to that of a "presider" in the Lutheran fashion, or that the Real Presence is ignored in the Novus Ordo in favor of the Virtual Presence of Christ in the Word and in the assembly.
Let's begin with the latter. The Consecration of the bread and wine has just taken place in the Novus Ordo. Then what happens? Does the priest turn to the Father Almighty with a prayer of propitiation or supplication as he offers to Him the Sacred Body and Blood of Christ? Far from it. With the Real Presence on the altar, he turns to the ASSEMBLY to ask it to RECALL that Christ has died, has risen, and WILL COME again--totally ignoring what had just happened. And so it goes, thoroughly protestantizing the liturgical action from that point on. Does he even ask the assembly to show adoration? Not on your life. Communion is distributed in the hand by lay ministers placed on an equal footing with the priest--in other words, in the Protestant way--kneeling is prohibited, no external expression of acknowledging the Divine Presence is permitted. Our wonderful selves, singing something innane such as One Bread One Body, become the focus of our attention. And all this is only one part of the corruption of the whole. These little protestantizing touches permeate the new Mass, starting with the dumping of the Offertory and proceeding to emulate the commemorative meal that was specifically condemned by Trent.
As for your claim that I rant, that I have marginalized myself, that I don't prove what I say--you are fairly new to these threads if you think that I have not provided proof after proof until my fingers are numb from typing--and refuted not only you--but twenty others as clueless as you at the same time. Nor am I at all marginalized as you seem to believe since I am a drop in a rising tide of a flood which is sweeping the world and which the Vatican is having a dickens of a time opposing. It is having a rough time because it has departed from Catholic Tradition and took millions of Catholics along for its modernist ride. Now it is having misgivings--as it views the wreckage of its own fecklessness the past forty years.
You need lecturing. You show a lot of ignorance in addition to having a penchant for responding in an aggressive, surly way. You didn't have a clue about the nature of the sacrifice of the Mass and know even less about the radical changes imposed by the Novus Ordo. You keep saying. Have you any proof?
I don't need to listen to you. The ridiculousness of schismatic scholarship was on display yesterday. They can't go 2 paragraphs without missing the entire meaning of a text. It's comical.
You ask me continuously to prove the obvious, such as the fact that the priest's role has been converted to that of a "presider" in the Lutheran fashion, or that the Real Presence is ignored in the Novus Ordo in favor of the Virtual Presence of Christ in the Word and in the assembly.
Duh. Maybe it's not "obvious" and that's why proof is required. You are so far turned inward you can't see how silly you sound.
Let's begin with the latter. The Consecration of the bread and wine has just taken place in the Novus Ordo. Then what happens? Does the priest turn to the Father Almighty with a prayer of propitiation or supplication as he offers to Him the Sacred Body and Blood of Christ? Far from it. With the Real Presence on the altar, he turns to the ASSEMBLY to ask it to RECALL that Christ has died, has risen, and WILL COME again--totally ignoring what had just happened. And so it goes, thoroughly protestantizing the liturgical action from that point on.
Yeah, you don't like the liturgy. It's coming through loud and clear. Because your favorite buzzwords aren't there, it must be a sinister plot. LOL
Does he even ask the assembly to show adoration? Not on your life.
Come to my parish. While we are "totally ignoring" what is happening we are on our knees. We do this as a sign of faith in the True Presence of Christ in the transubstantiated Body and Blood on the altar.
Ooops, I'm not supposed to know that. LOL
Communion is distributed in the hand by lay ministers placed on an equal footing with the priest--in other words, in the Protestant way--kneeling is prohibited, no external expression of acknowledging the Divine Presence is permitted.
Kneeling is not prohibited, neither is "external expression" of the Presence. If you have to lie to make you point, that speaks for itself.
Good day, dont' lecture me again.
SD