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"For THE VICTIM IS ONE AND THE SAME, the same NOW offering by the ministry of priests who then offered Himself on the cross, the MANNER ALONE OF OFFERING BEING DIFFERENT. The fruits of that bloody sacrifice, it is well understood, are received most abundantly through this unbloody one, so far is the latter from derogating in any way from the former."

Ultima, this is where you totally lose any credibility for your case, or any suspicion that you may be vaguely in touch with reality.

Every orthodox N.O. Catholic will totally agree with the teaching of the Council of Trent on the Sacrifice of the Mass and the real Presence. They also see these doctrines upheld by the N.O. liturgy when it is celebrated in accordance with the rubrics.

Personally I agree that the 1962 Missal emphasises these aspects of the Mass better, but to claim that they are non-existent in the new rite is sheer bloody-mindedness and is the kind of bigotry that turns people off traditionalists completely.

Every orthodox N.O. Catholic will totally agree with the teaching of the Council of Trent on the Sacrifice of the Mass and the real Presence.

I disagree. Why are most Novus Ordo Masses advertised as Eucharistic Celebrations at 9:00 and 10:30 Sunday mornings or whatever schedule, rather than The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass?

You cite a quotation of Trent but not my words. That's pretty telling. Tell me, how is anything I have said inaccurate?

Did Martin Luther begin his liturgical revolution by throwing out the Offertory? --So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther eliminate any notion of propitiation for sins on the part of the assembly? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther ban any mention of saintly intercessions? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther turn the altar into a table? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther insist the presider face the assembly instead of east? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther proscribe any outward show of veneration for the Sacred Host? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther celebrate a commemorative meal rather than a sacrifice? So does Novus Ordo.

Did Martin Luther place the Liturgy of the Word on the same theological plane as the Eucharist? So does Novus Ordo.