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To: Aloysius
but the canons of an ecumenical council would. Is this fair?

That would be fair game.

Very well. Now remember, the question at hand is the impeccability of the church as an institution.

we decree that such Jews and Saracens of both sexes in every Christian province and at all times shall be marked off in the eyes of the public from other peoples through the character of their dress. (FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, CANON 68)

Since it is absurd that a blasphemer of Christ exercise authority over Christians, we on account of the boldness of transgressors renew in this general council what the Synod of Toledo (589) wisely enacted in this matter, prohibiting Jews from being given preference in the matter of public offices, since in such capacity they are most troublesome to the Christians. (FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, CANON 69)

342 posted on 05/20/2003 2:30:27 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi
we decree that such Jews and Saracens of both sexes in every Christian province and at all times shall be marked off in the eyes of the public from other peoples through the character of their dress. (FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, CANON 68)

In the U.S. (which is a democracy), we throw suspected enemies of the state in jail. Israel (which is also a democracy) does the same thing. But a Catholic state, which is not a democracy, cannot identify perceievd enemies of the state by their dress?

Since it is absurd that a blasphemer of Christ exercise authority over Christians, we on account of the boldness of transgressors renew in this general council what the Synod of Toledo (589) wisely enacted in this matter, prohibiting Jews from being given preference in the matter of public offices, since in such capacity they are most troublesome to the Christians. (FOURTH LATERAN COUNCIL, CANON 69)

I have no problem with this. Again, we are not talking about a democracy here. I would also have no problem if Israel prohibited Palestinians from holding public office.

343 posted on 05/20/2003 2:47:27 PM PDT by Aloysius
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