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To: BlackElk
And, of course, unless you are a Roman Catholic, how we Catholics deal with the lavender fifth column in our own clergy and among our bishops is our business and none of yours;

ROFL! You mean as in moving them around to protect them and maximize their chances of molesting MORE unsuspecting boys?

In my opinion these priests or any priest who is homosexual doesn't belong in ANY position of authority in ANY Christian Church.

According to your above statement, my position is far too harsh for *YOUR Church*.
Yet you accuse ME of being to soft on this issue?
Unreal.

320 posted on 05/19/2003 5:13:35 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge; ninenot; Cap'n Crunch; Polycarp
Jorge, harsh has nothing to do with it. We (not you) are the Roman Catholic Church. How the Roman Catholic Church governs itself is the business of Catholics and no one else's business. If you want to scrawl graffiti on the cathedral wall, you will constitute no threat to the one Church established by Jesus Christ.

By and large, Catholics leave it to the Assembly of God (for example) to deal with its ministers such as Jimmy Swaggert and James Bakker as the Assembly of God sees fit. That is as it should be in a nation with our First Amendment among men and women of good will.

As it happens, any actual Catholic will agree that these homosexuals have no business in our priesthood or in any position of authority in our Church. We will agree among our Catholic selves that they should be defrocked and excommunicated and we will applaud their prosecution and incarceration which is society's only constitutional means of helping us take out the trash.

Your ignorance of matters Catholic is obvious from your posts. Do NOT confuse the Church in the United States (AmChurch) with the actual Roman Catholic Church as governed in Rome. Here the leftist termites are in control of many dioceses, universities and institutions. In Rome as in most of the world, the homeowners are in control. Long after whatever church you may worship in is long-forgotten, there will be a Roman Catholic Church, as guaranteed by your Savior and mine.

If you are going to fall back on the silly notion that you have read a bible and therefore know better than the pope and that you reject the "traditions of men", please translate the following in Aramaic, ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek:

"The quick brown dog jumped over the lazy fox."

If you cannot do this, I assume that you depend upon the translations of other men whose persons, characters and capabilities are not within your personal knowledge--- i.e. you rely upon the traditions of other men who are not Catholics.

I am going to go out on a limb here and suspect that 2,000 years of Roman Catholic scholarship, learning, wisdom and faith (the Teaching Magisterium) will trump the Martin-come-latelies and YOPIOS in terms of authentic Christian doctrine and teaching. I would not mention this but for the fact that you saw fit to stick your nose in where it most certainly did not belong.

All that having been said, I have yet to see anyone accuse you of being a persecutor of gays, whatever it may please you to claim. From your posts it is rather evident that you are their apologist. That is quite real.

Mind your own business. Good fences make good neighbors.

326 posted on 05/20/2003 9:04:42 AM PDT by BlackElk (Viva Cristo Rey! Kumbayaisma delenda est.!)
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