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Perhaps He did give them enough to overcome, yet they refused anyway, instead loving themself or their sins and clinging to them. Had God given all men irresistable grace, then He would have by the same act removed their free will.

Yea men worship what they call "free will"..they like the promise of Satan that they will be as gods..

Keeping in mind that we do believe in free will, but believe it is determined by our God given preferences, and that it is bound by the fall and there for limited in its choices.

Could you show me where totally "free will" is taught in scripture??

We would argue that until God's irrestible grace was given ,mans will was not free, it was bound by sin and unable to choose Christ.

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Could you show me where totally "free will" is taught in scripture??

We would argue that until God's irrestible grace was given ,mans will was not free, it was bound by sin and unable to choose Christ.

I would argue that Adam, before the fall, had free will. Yes?

Thus, I would have to make a slight variation, and argue that until God's resistible grace was given, mans will was not free, it was bound by sin and unable to choose Christ.

The entire sense of the word Justice seems to require it.

Sure, I could trot out the Arminian support passages. Like when Jesus says "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling." (Matthew 23:37)