[JNB]

Talking to a priest who knows Latin, perfidious in Latin meann unbeliving, though the words meaning in the secular world took on worse meanings, so the Good Friday Liturgy was changed in 1955.

One thing I keep on noticing form you sinkspur is your are hostile to the traditions of the church, and again, I am here to tell you that we will not shut us up or leave you are your ilk alone in terms of liturgy. You are a very bitter man in your attitude towrds people who value tradition, even with more moderate traditionalists.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Talking to a priest who knows Latin, perfidious in Latin meann unbeliving, though the words meaning in the secular world took on worse meanings, so the Good Friday Liturgy was changed in 1955.

Perfidous was always translated "faithless" or "unbelieving" in the many Latin-English Missals I've seen.

The change was to placate the Jews who were then and still are blaming traditional Church teachings for the Holocaust.

[Loyalist]

Talking to a priest who knows Latin, perfidious in Latin meann unbeliving, though the words meaning in the secular world took on worse meanings, so the Good Friday Liturgy was changed in 1955.

The changing meanings and connotations of words over time are significant weaknesses of vernacular liturgies. As a dead language, Latin doesn't have this problem as its vocabulary is now forever fixed in meaning and connotation.

[sinkspur]

I am here to tell you that we will not shut us up or leave you are your ilk alone in terms of liturgy. You are a very bitter man in your attitude towrds people who value tradition, even with more moderate traditionalists.

I'm not bitter at all. Not in the least. It seems to me it is you and a few others around here who try to slap down anybody who speaks up for the Novus Ordo.

And I'm all for "traditionalists" who can't stomach the Novus Ordo to have their own rite, or their own parishes.

You're dreaming if you think there are hordes of Catholics chomping at the bit to start attending Latin Masses.

Before you start judging someone else's disposition, you better look at the crowd you're hangin' with.