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To: Boxsford
One of the biggest obstacles presented by many churches and evangelists is the "conversion experience." (Some of the more charismatic churches would go so far as to say that if you haven't spoken in tongues, then you aren't saved.) In my opinion, modern Christendom places more emphasis on esoteric experience than a sound biblical presentation of the gospel.

I cannot recall a "conversion experience." I was never "slain in the Spirit." I have never spoken in tongues. The "holy laughter" movement really creeps me out. For me, it was more of a slow, steady growth into a saving knowledge of Christ, not a sudden, "road to Damascus" revelation.

17 posted on 05/06/2003 9:06:10 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: sheltonmac
I cannot recall a "conversion experience." I was never "slain in the Spirit." I have never spoken in tongues. The "holy laughter" movement really creeps me out. For me, it was more of a slow, steady growth into a saving knowledge of Christ, not a sudden, "road to Damascus" revelation.

And isn't that the beauty of our Lord? We cannot put him in a box and know how or when He will move. He is so creative and comes to each person in that personal relationship he desires of us. For me the conversion experience was very dramatic. (no laughter or tongues) A missionary told me that the way the Lord showed himself to me was very much the way people in countries without His Word sometimes receive Him. Yet, my children are learning and growing in their faith very much in the way your describe your experience.

20 posted on 05/06/2003 11:30:12 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: sheltonmac
One of the biggest obstacles presented by many churches and evangelists is the "conversion experience." (Some of the more charismatic churches would go so far as to say that if you haven't spoken in tongues, then you aren't saved.) In my opinion, modern Christendom places more emphasis on esoteric experience than a sound biblical presentation of the gospel.

i am reminded of the passage in Acts where the Spirit leads Phillip to the chariot of the Ethiopian eunuch. The Spirit moved Phillip to answer the sincere questions that the eunuch had. The result was a baptised convert. Notice that there was no "external signs" involved in the "conversion experience", the scriptures record simply that the eunuch went on his way rejoicing.

If there be a difficulty in the way that our churches and it's outreach ministries are presenting Christ, it is in the three general injunctions given to us in respect to scripture:

1) Add nothing to scripture;
2) Take nothing away from the scriptures;
3) Do not go beyond what is written;
The scriptures do record conversion experiences, some rather dramatic. They do not tell us that these experiences will always be the way that God works on an individual.
21 posted on 05/06/2003 11:34:29 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (Ya don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows)
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