[RnMomof7]

I am currently reading "What Happened to the Gospel of Grace" By Boid

He asseses the condition of Evangelical Churches ..it is not a pretty picture.

I would reccomend it to any that have an interest in the growth of the INVISIBLE Church

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Did you notice that this was a swipe at the "happy-clappy" Rick-Warren-Purpose-Driven-abomination-posing-as-worship-church without mentioning names? (sorry, i've been lurking too many threads in which f.Christian was posting, and his (?) incomprehensible posts, lacking standard syntax got to me!)

It seems that we have a war in our congregations in which we will either 1) Worship God in Spirit and in Truth; or 2) Worship man by accomidating our gatherings to the whims of the unregenerate;

[whipitgood]

Re: "The Invisible Church"
Rn, you have hit on one of my pet issues about the church. WAY too much emphasis is placed on the visible aspects of the church, not nearly enough on the invisible. I believe the net effect of this is that our churches turn into social clubs, as the poster commented. Further, I think that our tendency to focus on the visible is a violation of the Third Commandment (Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in Vain). What is vanity after all, but focusing on the visible at the expense of truth? If we do this, do we not take His name upon ourselves for reasons of vanity?