Posted on 05/02/2003 7:36:55 AM PDT by Tantumergo
The Pope might soon allow the world's Catholic priests the right to celebrate the old rite Latin Mass on Sundays and holy days without the permission of their bishops, according to sources close to the Vatican.
John Paul II is understood to be ready to grant a "universal indult" by the end of the year to permit all priests to choose freely between the celebration of Mass in the so-called Tridentine rite used up to 1962 - before the disciplinary reforms of the Second Vatican Council - and the novus ordo Mass used after 1970.
It will mean that a priest who wants to celebrate old rite Masses will no longer need to apply for an indult to Ecclesia Dei, a pontifical commission set up to study the implications of the Lefebvrist schism, after first gaining permission from his bishop. The indult may be announced as part of the publication of forthcoming juridical notes on Ecclesia de Eucharistia, the new encyclical on the Eucharist, published on Holy Thursday, in which the Pope affirmed the Church's traditional teaching of the sacrificial nature of the Mass.
It might also be announced at the Basilica of St Mary Major in Rome on May 24, when Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, the Prefect for the Congregation of the Clergy and the president of Ecclesia Dei, becomes the first cardinal prefect to celebrate an old rite Mass in a main Roman basilica for 30 years. Organised by the Latin Mass movement, Una Voce, the event is one of many indications that Rome is dropping restrictions on the celebration of the old rite.
Last month, the Holy Father, who celebrated a Tridentine Mass last summer, published a command called Rescriptum ex Audientia to authorise the celebration of the old rite Mass in St Peter's Basilica, Rome, by any priest who possessed an indult. The Vatican also asked the Scottish bishops, ahead of their five-yearly ad limina visit to Rome in March, to reveal what provisions they made for the celebration of the old rite Mass in their dioceses. Since the meeting, the Scottish bishops have stepped up their provision from just four a year in the whole of the country to at least one a month in Glasgow and Edinburgh.
The same requests have been made in a questionnaire to the English and Welsh bishops, whose next ad limina visit to Rome will take place in the autumn. The bishops have invited the Latin Mass Society (LMS), set up to promote the practice of the old rite, to submit a report on the provision of the Tridentine Mass ahead of their low week meeting in London this week when they were scheduled to discuss the issue.
John Medlin, LMS development officer, confirmed that a "full document" had been circulated to the bishops but refused to discuss its contents.
Gotta go with ya there, sinkspur. HOWEVER, if this "news" is intertwined with the "news" of a possible recon with the SSPX, this could get veddy interesting.
Well, ya, but you know we love that warm, fuzzy community feeling that Fr. Bob provides! ;-)
And I'd hate to see Fr. Bob not be able to sit in that way cool Captain Kirk presider chair.
How many different priests? A handful?
As I've said in the past, I've got no problem with the Tridentine Mass.
And, I guess it doesn't matter to add another "specialized" liturgy, since we've got Spanish Masses, Tongan Masses, Vietnamese Masses, and Youth Masses.
If there's a critical mass in a particular parish that wants a Tridentine Mass, I suppose the pastor will have to provide one.
What's next? Baptisms in Latin?
I think it more likely that, over time, bishops will establish Tridentine parishes and concentrate those who wish to attend all-things-pre-1962 there.
In parishes built after 1965, there is no "high altar."
"Make it so, Usher No. 1!"
But I've visited several churches and chapels (and not SSPX chapels, real chapels) built after 1965 that have high altars.
And they're getting more common - not less.
I didn't know that. Tragic beyond words.
Who's gonna do the translation(s)?
I have a headache!
My preference (if the pope asks me) is for a Tridentine in the vernacular but with the Latin retained for short responses.
I'd like to see a few of those "good news" missalette companies put out to pasture.
Fifteen or twenty, and only because my parish is a convenient one or two hour drive away for them.
There are more, I suspect.
What's next? Baptisms in Latin?
It's funny you should mention that. My newborn daughter was just baptized in the Tridentine Rite this past Sunday.
I think it more likely that, over time, bishops will establish Tridentine parishes and concentrate those who wish to attend all-things-pre-1962 there.
The current model isn't quite like that. My parish has a 9:00 AM Tridentine Mass and vernacular Masses at 10:30 AM and noon. We have traditional devotions (Forty Hours' Adoration, First Friday devotions, novenas, benedictions) as well, and Tridentine Mass on Holy Days of Obligation.
We all live as one happy parish - there is no need to segregate us.
The readings, occasional prayers and homily (of course) would be in the vernacular.
But I sense the real problem most people have with the Tridentine Rite is not the Latin.
If we were to translate the entire Tridentine Rite into English and retain the same rubrics, the same stretches of quiet stillness, the same solemn tone, the same deference - the usual suspects would be just as upset. By the same token, if the Novus Ordo were celebrated exactly according to the GIRM as the Holy Father recommends, the same objections would follow.
There are a certain number of people who need their worship to be as frenetic, casual and loud as the rest of their free time.
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