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To: drstevej
BTW, you do not need to pray for my salvation, hoowever you may pray for my sanctification.

Although you make a legitimate distinction, don't even protestants need the gift of final perseverance? Your salvation was won for you on the cross, but it doesn't belong to you until you perservere to the end. My understanding of apologetics is very limited, but I think that Catholics and Protestants agree on that.

12 posted on 04/29/2003 1:27:51 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
***Your salvation was won for you on the cross, but it doesn't belong to you until you perservere to the end. My understanding of apologetics is very limited, but I think that Catholics and Protestants agree on that.***



Calvinistic Protestants believe that those whom God saves, He keeps. We believe that eternal life is not probationary life or conditionaal life -- it is eternal life. We believe it is possible to know your eternal destiny. We can be assured because eternal life is based upon His work for us.

Calvinist Protestants do not agree with Catholics on this issue. BTW, there are other Protestants (Arminians and Wesleyans) who see perseverance as conditional and see salvation as forfeitable.

I do appreciate your questions.

Rom. 8:30 - WHOM he justified, THEM he glorified.
13 posted on 04/29/2003 3:08:39 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: Maximilian
One other thought... Salvation is used in differing ways. The root meaning is "deliver"

PAST TENSE I have been saved from the penalty of sin (Junsitication)
PRESENT TENSE I am being saved from the power of sin (Sanctification)
FUTURE TENSE I shall be saved from the presence of sin (Glorification)
14 posted on 04/29/2003 3:14:46 PM PDT by drstevej
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