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To: narses
Dear narses,

The USCCB may be an organization of American bishops, but it has no actual ecclesiastical standing. The comparison doesn't stand.

Further, you know that the document about evangelizing Jews was not even an official USCCB document, but rather the musings of a subcommittee of a committee, and was taken down rather hastily in embarrassment by the bishops.

Additionally, though the cited execrable article was written in 1993, it is still maintained on the official SSPX website. Here is the link:

http://www.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/q10_indult.htm

To get to this evil insult against the Catholic Church, one need merely go to www.sspx.org, click DIRECTLY FROM THE HOME PAGE to the FAQ page, and then click to this question. It is an active, current link, not found in some archive of dead letters, but presented as the current thinking of the schismatic excommunicated SSPX.

Do you think that a similar article condemning the Tridentine Rite, if found on the Vatican website, could be naysayed away by saying, "Oh, well, that was written ten years ago."?

It would be the bitterest irony that a group so taken with their delusional defense of "tradition" would wave away their evil words by citing the advanced age of the missive. That is disgusting.

The fact that some hierarchs have not embraced the Tridentine Rite is not pertinent, here, narses, and you know it. The Church herself, through the actions of the Supreme Pontiff, contradict the actions or words of a hierarch here or there. When Mr. Fellay openly condemns these words, you will have some grounds to your argument. When he has them stripped from his schismatic website, then you will have an argument.

In the meanwhile, the facts still stand, this is abhorrent, and to sugar-coat it is equally morally disgusting.

As to "healing the wounds", there will be no "healing" without truth. And the truth is that the SSPX promotes hatred of the normative Mass of the Roman Catholic Church. And any who seek to paper that over join in their crimes.


sitetest
22 posted on 04/25/2003 8:40:36 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest
The SSPX has one simple official position, I posted it above. The website referenced btw, is no more "official" than the USCCB is. Abp. Weakland's remarks (see the article I just posted) are his, and while they are representative of many in the hierarchy, they are NOT the official teachings of the Church. The SSPX is simply an order of the Church, when it takes an "official" position, it does so by means of it's Superior General. His words are posted above.

I repeat -- those who denigrate any valid Rite of the Church are doing a great evil. They as idividuals are, not the organizations they belong to.
25 posted on 04/25/2003 8:46:08 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: sitetest
Do you think that a similar article condemning the Tridentine Rite, if found on the Vatican website, could be naysayed away by saying, "Oh, well, that was written ten years ago."?

Yes. See my post on Abp. Weakland. The first response was "Archbishop Weakland is retired"!

The issue is this, if the SSPX was trying to supress the NO that would be one of the conditions. It isn't. Just as the SSJV has reconcilled, so will the SSPX. The ugly rhetorical excesses of folks of ill will on all sides is deplorable, as is the regretable pride of many of those of good will unwilling to see past the beam in their own eye to work together for reconcilliation. His Holiness is being sniped at from every side, see http://unavoce.org/news/2003/TLM_in_Rome.htm for an example. Even at ST. PETERS his clear instructions are ignored by those who denigrate the Tridentine Mass.

29 posted on 04/25/2003 8:55:12 PM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: sitetest
This is no argument. There are plenty of bishops who hate the old Mass with equal intensity. The real solution is to have them co-exist and see which rite eventually survives. Let the Lord sort it out.
34 posted on 04/25/2003 9:03:48 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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