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To: NYer; narses; sitetest; sandyeggo; american colleen
Here is yet another "gem" from the SSPX web site, in response to the question:

Is it possible to say that the post-conciliar Church is a new religion, and if so, how can it be considered as Catholic?

The response is quite long. Here is the conclusion:

Conclusion

    It consequently cannot be denied that Vatican II attempts to constitute a new religion in radical rupture with all of Catholic Tradition and teaching, a new religion whose principal purpose is to exalt the natural dignity of the human person and to bring about a "religious" unity of mankind. However, the subtle cleverness of this operation must also be noted. It is the traditional hierarchical structure of the Church, its Mass, its devotions and prayers, its catechisms and teachings, and now even its Rosary that have all been infiltrated with the principles of the new religion. This new religion has been swallowed down unwittingly by many Catholics precisely because it hides, as a caricature, behind the outward appearance of Catholicism. The end result is a strange mixture of Catholicism and the new religion.

    This is the reason for which we have every right to condemn the post-conciliar revolution for the new religion that it is, while at the same time we must respect the offices and functions of those who hold positions in the Church. Likewise, we must admit that many Catholics in good faith still retain the true Faith in their hearts, believing on the authority of God, Who reveals divine truth through the Catholic Church, although it is often tainted to varying degrees by the principles of the new religion. Consequently, it does not at all follow from the fact that the Vatican II religion is truly a new religion, that we should maintain that we are the only Catholics left, that the bishops and the Pope have necessarily lost the Faith, and that we must not pray for them or respect their position in the Church. This false assertion of the sedevacantists is much too simple, and does not account for the complicated mixture of the new religion and the elements of Catholic Faith and life that is the reality that is actually happening in the Novus Ordo. Our duty is not to condemn and excommunicate, but to help Catholics of good faith in the modern Church to make the necessary discernment, in order to totally abandon the new religion, embrace Tradition, and remain Catholic. Such must be the goal of our conversations on the subject.  [answered by Father Peter Scott]
 

Even its rosary???!!! It seems that even the new mysteries given us by Pope John Paul II, do not qualify as valid. Those of us who have hung on to papal teachings are truly doomed.

13 posted on 04/25/2003 7:45:55 PM PDT by NYer (Christe Eleison.)
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To: NYer
Given these postings from this particular SSPX site, if they aren't modified and they are representative of the SSPX, I cannot ever see a reunion, sadly.

If the SSPX got exactly what they want, there would be a rupture in the Catholic Church that would parallel the Reformation, I think.

People like you and I and most NO types on these threads would still attend Mass because we know why we go, but when I think of probably 90% of my parish, I'm not so sure.

I can hear the justifications of the SSPXers about what I posted above, but to lose that many souls would be a spiritual tragedy.

18 posted on 04/25/2003 8:18:17 PM PDT by american colleen
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