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Calvinism debate must be balanced
Baptist Standard ^ | A. J. Conyers

Posted on 04/19/2003 7:55:27 AM PDT by Between the Lines

One cannot help noticing the interest in Calvinism lately expressed among some Baptists has prompted from others a cry of alarm. One group tends to represent the Baptist heritage as passively shaped by Calvinism, and the other wishes to deny the Calvinist (or Reformed) influence completely. The truth is somewhere in-between.

The concern for eliminating the Calvinist influence among Baptists is misguided.

Every body of believers needs to be in touch with the best of its theological tradition. For Baptists, that tradition is Reformed, or Calvinist, thought. Those who wish to look into this view need only discover for themselves the evident Calvinism of the Particular Baptist London Confession of 1644 and the even more pointedly Calvinist nature of the Second London Confession of 1677. These statements, along with the Savoy Confession and the Westmins ter Confession, evidently came from a co mmon stock of doctrinal expression. The words of the 1644 Confession and its successors are suggestive of Calvin's "Institutes" and not at all of, for instance, the early Anabaptist Schleitheim Confession. This is true not only in the ordinary sense of common vocabulary and system, but also in regard to the tone and the habitual focus. Again, one can point to the undisguised Reformed theology of John Gill, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, Andrew Fuller, Isaac Backus, Richard Furman, Basil Manly Sr., James Petigrew Boyce and quite a number of others who were powerfully instrumental in the doctrinal expression of Baptists through the middle part of the twentieth century.

All this has been vigorously preached by the defenders of Calvinist theology, only they have sometimes taken an additional, and unwarranted, step further. They often assume that this put Baptists (especially Southern Baptists) right in line with the most extreme expressions of Calvinism. They assume that Baptists must be advocates of the Canons of Dort, the famous five-point Calvinism that was formulated some half- century after John Calvin himself was dead. Or they align Baptists with the hard-edged Calvinism of early New England Puritan thought. In fact, the Reformed thought that most influenced Baptists, especially in the South, was one that had been softened and moderated by Scottish Common Sense philosophy and by the Baptists' own insistence upon the competence of believers to respond in faith to the gospel.

Interestingly enough, along with this Calvinism moderated by Scottish Presbyterians and Baptists of the American South came a real openness to the strongest and best of Christian thinkers from other traditions. The great Broadus, who set the standard for intelligent and heart-felt preaching among Baptists, remembered with gratitude that the advanced students of Boyce, the founder of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, read from Turrettini (a moderate Reformed thinker) and Thomas Aquinas. E.Y. Mullins, Southern Seminary's president for the first quarter of the 20th century, could adapt Schleiermacher's insights to a basically Reformed worldview.

Some worry about an "aggressive Calvinism" on college campuses. I worry more about a fundamental resistance to any vigorous kind of theological thinking. For the life of me, I cannot see that college campuses are about to be overrun by Calvinists--aggressive or otherwise. If there is genuine theological study going on, which in fact there is, then it is a matter for which we might be grateful. I am concerned about aggressive relativism in ethics and religion; I am concerned about aggressive nihilism in the moral life of college students; I am concerned about aggressive addictions and aggressive sexually transmitted diseases; I am concerned about aggressive indifference in the formation of the intellect among students.

But aggressive Calvinism? I haven't seen that yet. And I do find, however, among our best students an appreciation for the ordered, energetic, biblical teachings of John Calvin and some of his followers. To reject this rich tradition by pretending it has nothing to do with Baptist history would be wasteful and wrongheaded. To confuse the distinctive Baptist form of this tradition with its most radical historical expressions is to miss the Baptist genius that reshaped Calvinism in a way that proved fruitful for the aspiring denomination of Baptist Christians in America.

Laissez faire theology, which forgets its debt to thinkers of the past, may do for a period of time. In fact, that has mostly been the state of things since World War II, after which careful theological teaching was submerged in denominational boosterism and a cult of personality, with results that we have sadly lived with these past two decades. The atheological approach to church life leaves us narrow-minded and unimaginative, merely reciting the prejudices we have gathered like lint over the past 50 years; while a well- wrought theological tradition keeps us alive to conversation partners from every Christian generation, providing a foundation of substance for our mission and our ministry. As P.T. Forsyth once wrote, "The non-theological Christ is popular; he wins votes; but he is not mighty; he does not win souls; he does not break men into small pieces and create them anew."

A.J. Conyers is professor of theology at Baylor University's George W. Truett Theological Seminary in Waco


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To: White Mountain
So that's all it takes, huh?

A burning in your busom?


And if I don't get it, that's a sure sure sign that GOD does not talk to me?
Is this what passes for Logic 101 in BYU?
201 posted on 01/04/2004 8:28:01 PM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: White Mountain; Wrigley
GROW UP WHITEY! And kindly act like an adult and have the courtesy and manners to ping anyone you are GOSSIPPING about. Oh I forgot, that is how you Mormons run your wards. What a great example of love that is! Isn't it marvelous?
202 posted on 01/04/2004 8:45:17 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: jerky; Wrigley
LOL!
205 posted on 01/04/2004 10:31:25 PM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: Wrigley
Dang!

A fellow can't even go to SLEEP around here, for fear he'll MISS something!


Ok, who got nasty and posted #203?
What did it say?
Who had it pulled?

.....so many questions: so little time.....
207 posted on 01/05/2004 5:20:25 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: drstevej
How 'bout them COLTS?


Thar WUZ joy in Mudville, here in Indianapolis, last night!!!
208 posted on 01/05/2004 5:21:47 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: A.J.Armitage; CARepubGal; Wrigley
Please guys, don't let them frustrate you to the point of saying, God forbid... Bad Words!

You know, from experience, they then can avoid talking about the inconsistancies at hand, for.....

1. if you are a potty mouth,
2. you are a NATURAL man/woman,
3. and, as such, it PROVES that,
4. you CAN'T be 'saved',
5. if you ain't 'saved' then,
6. you can't POSSIBLY have ANY words that are true,
7. since you are a proven liar, then,

Voila -- they don't have to continue talking to you or even deal with the questions that have been posed to them and their organization.

(in the Bible, a talking donkey gets more respect than that!)
209 posted on 01/05/2004 5:32:34 AM PST by Elsie (When the avalanche starts... it's too late for the pebbles to vote....)
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To: Wrigley
Cease with the insults and profanity. Thank you.
210 posted on 01/05/2004 6:45:02 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: White Mountain
From a Biblical standpoint, ... Michael and Adam are two separate creations.

211 posted on 01/05/2004 7:07:10 AM PST by Quester
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Where is the profanity?
212 posted on 01/05/2004 7:37:43 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: White Mountain
White, white, white.

The truth really must be hurting you.
213 posted on 01/05/2004 7:40:18 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Elsie
Elsie, they wouldn't deal with the inconsistancies anyway.
214 posted on 01/05/2004 7:45:20 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: Elsie
That was beautiful, Elsie. Thank-you my friend.
215 posted on 01/05/2004 9:17:07 PM PST by God is good (Till we meet in the golden city of the New Jerusalem, peace to my brothers and sisters.)
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To: Elsie
Again, excellent point. How can they be saved before they believe if they are asked to believe to be saved? Excellent.
Some have strayed from the simple truth of the gospel. In these last days, many false teachers have come.

God bless you to the heavens.
216 posted on 01/05/2004 9:19:21 PM PST by God is good (Till we meet in the golden city of the New Jerusalem, peace to my brothers and sisters.)
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To: Cvengr
Thank-you for that wonderful post, my friend.
217 posted on 01/05/2004 9:34:14 PM PST by God is good (Till we meet in the golden city of the New Jerusalem, peace to my brothers and sisters.)
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