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To: Dr. Eckleburg; fortheDeclaration; RnMomof7; Gamecock; jude24; so_real
Eternal Security rests in the promises of God, not in anything else. If God promises eternal life to those who believe, then those who believe shall have eternal life. Not temporary life. Not a revokable eternal life for if it is revokable it is not eternal.

It is not based on what we do after we believe. It is based on the fact that we do believe.

BTW Doc, how do you know that you are elect? What process did you go through so that you knew you that you had done what is necessary to convince yourself that you were one of the "elect"?

And how do you KNOW that you have eternal life?

Is it based on the fact that after you believed that you have managed to live a good life? Is it based on the fact that after you believed you are able to keep his commandments? Or is it based on the fact that after you believed you fulfilled your end of the promise (you believed) and now it is God's responsiblity to give you the eternal life that He promised to those who believe?

662 posted on 05/02/2003 8:11:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
Eternal Security rests in the promises of God, not in anything else. If God promises eternal life to those who believe, then those who believe shall have eternal life. Not temporary life. Not a revokable eternal life for if it is revokable it is not eternal.

It is not based on what we do after we believe. It is based on the fact that we do believe.

Logical inconsistancey

You believe that God does not want Robots to love Him, so he gives them free will to choose him....But apparently you become a robot after you are saved and God does not mind keeping you saved by making you a robot.

And how do you KNOW that you have eternal life?

How do you KNOW you have ? Because you said the formula prayer? Or because you have the witness of the Holy Spirit?

664 posted on 05/02/2003 12:34:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: P-Marlowe; RnMomof7; so_real; Gamecock; rwfromkansas; jude24
(eternal security) is based on the fact that we do believe.

And why do we believe? Are we so much smarter than the Jews, or the Bushmen, or the Moslems, or the agnosics or the FR-5th? Are we better people; less sinful; less fallen?

No, we believe because God opened our hearts to Christ. It was His gift to us, not the other way around.

Marlowe, does God know if you are saved?

Or is He holding His breath, hoping you don't slip up?

679 posted on 05/02/2003 5:15:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Eternal Security rests in the promises of God, not in anything else. If God promises eternal life to those who believe, then those who believe shall have eternal life. Not temporary life. Not a revokable eternal life for if it is revokable it is not eternal. It is not based on what we do after we believe. It is based on the fact that we do believe

Amen!

720 posted on 05/05/2003 2:30:56 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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