To: rwfromkansas
I will edit it slightly to make it more accurate, as I could see a bit of inaccuracy in the part where I talk about you thinking it was no big deal. That is not true. It is just that you think today God has willed the fall not an impediment to his Sovereign Grace, which I disagree with.
524 posted on
04/28/2003 9:19:32 PM PDT by
rwfromkansas
(Arminian: person believing the Fall no longer binds and that he can pick himself back up without God)
To: rwfromkansas
I will edit it slightly to make it more accurate You are still lying. You are quite the hypocrite RW. You need to repent. You know your tag line is not true, but it feels good to stretch your vision of the truth into a lie, doesn't it?
Are you sure Christ made a change in your life? What were like before?
To: rwfromkansas; P-Marlowe
I think that's still a misrepresentation of Arminian theology. No (moderate) Arminian believes, "the Fall no longer binds and that he can pick himself back up without God."
Arminians believe in prevenient grace -- that God works in someone's life to regenerate them so that they can make the decision, but the outcome of that decision is not predetermined (though it is certainly foreknown). Bit they still believe that God must actively work in someone's life before they can come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. The only difference between Prevenient Grace and Irresistible Grace is that the Calvinist believes the outcome is predetermined.
It only hurts your credibility to go for a "cheap shot" like that. There is a strong case to be made for Calvinism -- it does not need "cheap shots" to be made for it.
529 posted on
04/28/2003 9:30:39 PM PDT by
jude24
("Facts? You can use facts to prove anything that's even REMOTELY true!" - Homer Simpson)
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