[jude24]

There is obviously a problem with definitions going on here. There also appears to be a cadre of hyper-Calvinists lurinking and posting, even though no true hyper-Calvinist would ever admit to being a hyper Calvinist-- they just assume that normal Calvinists are Arminians.

Nah, "hyper-calvinist" is always reserved for someone more Calvinist than the speaker is. As such, it in reality means nothing. To some Arminians, there is no such thing as a moderate Calvinist -- they're all hyper. But no Calvinist claims to be a hyper-Calvinist. Ergo, the term is of limited usefulness.

For instance, to some in this discussion, I am a hyper-calvinist since I am a 5-pointer who leans supralapsarian. But I certainly do not consider myself "hyper," since there are those on this board more extreme than I.

[rwfromkansas]

I have not been able to decide where I fit on the supra/infra debate. The more I delve into the subject, the more I get confused. Both sides have strong appeals to me.