[ninenot]

In addition, CantDeb--you give very short shrift to Una Voce, a group of European and American intellectuals, who largely have remained within the Catholic Church.

While I grant you that SSPX certainly (albeit insolently) pushed the ball, the heavy lifting was done by UV.

[ultima ratio]

The "heavy lifting" was done by Una Voce? That is the silliest statement I've heard you make yet. It played a part, but the soul of the traditional movement was Archbishop Lefebvre and those who followed him.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

In addition, CantDeb--you give very short shrift to Una Voce, a group of European and American intellectuals, who largely have remained within the Catholic Church.

Do I? That's interesting, because I am a member. I don't remember mentioning Una Voce on this thread at all. Last time I checked their website it gave updates and prayers on the state of SSPX/Rome reconciliation, not hateful screeches towards estranged siblings.