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Satan Joins The Moonies! ~Sun Myung Moon has often said that he came to restore everything that was lost. Man fell from the beginning, Moon says, Satan had a sexual relationship with Eve and sin entered the world, passed down through the lineage so that all are born as children of Satan rather than children of God. The Moonies are passionate about their belief that All will eventually be saved. Including Satan himself. Well, Moon's job to restore satan has suddenly become much easier: Satan Has Joined The Moonies! Satan Works For Moon Now! ~Right about now, some of you must think I am joking or something. Right? Well, I'm not! Recently, Moon claimed that Satan has repented of his historic sins, and even wrote a letter to God and Rev. Moon (This is what Moon actually claims!) and in the letter Satan said he was sorry for his sins. He also promised to start working hard for Rev. Moon from now on. Well, sadly Rev. Moon has not made very much progress in saving the world with only God on his side, but now that Satan has joined the team, maybe that will change? Here is a direct quote from Moon where he claims Satan has repented and is now working for the Moonies: Excerpted from: SUN MYUNG MOON LEADERS' MEETING May 1, 1996 East Garden Translator Peter Kim This is the way we can liberate Hell. Hell on the Earth and in the spiritual world will be liberated. You are presently residing in the physical hell of your physical body. How can we liberate this physical hell and then the spiritual hell? Now Grandmother Hong and Heung Jin Nim are working together to liberate hell in the spiritual world. They mobilized the fallen Archangel Lucifer. Even Lucifer has repented and confessed and is now being used to work to liberate all those evil spirits in this physical world as well as the spiritual world. Satan had repented Moon said. And so it was only right that Moon forgive satan and welcome him back into the family of God. Isn't it comforting for you to know that Satan is actually your friend and co-worker now? In a transcript of a prayer found on a Unification News Website in Korea, Moon had a little more to say about Satan, and he said it in a prayer to God: Excerpted from: True Parent's Prayer You gave Satan a chance to indemnify the faults that he committed. He did not love humanity as God's children but rather stole them from God and turned them against Him. The time when God could command Satan to correct his wrongs and clean up the fallen lineage came when God gave him the ultimatum on March 21. Satan apologized to God and claimed he would support Him to create the ideal garden of love. He confessed all his sins before True Parents to be forgiven. He confessed and apologized all he had done wrong to humanity. Please, Heavenly Father, take pity on him as he is asking for forgiveness from You and True Parents. As we, True Parents, unify heaven and earth, we bring peace between God and Satan and establish unity between God, Satan and humanity. We combined that unity into one single lineage of God. Well, what can you say? Satan is even more than a friend now. In the words above, Moon has basically called him "family". Are you sure you members really want to stay in the Unification Church at this point? You Can Safely Follow Satan! ~Satan and Moon have not just recently met, by the way. Oh no. They have been in quite a long term relationship. In fact, Moon has had some pretty fascinating (and bizzare) things to say about Satan over the years. He told his early followers that they could safely follow Satan. That's right. He told them that as long as they were sincere in following Satan, that Satan would not be able to handle their sincerity and he would eventually bring them to God himself. So, follow Satan, and he will bring you to God. I wonder what some of Moon's paid Christian Ministers would think about this guidance from Moon? Probably they wouldn't care, as those participating with Moon, do so because they share the same God: Money. Here is an excerpt that comes from a book by one of Moon's earliest followers, Won Pil Kim: Excerpted from: Won Pil Kim Father's Course and our Life of Faith Chapter 3 - Mistakes I'd like to tell you another story. Already 30 or 40 years before Father went up to North Korea there were religious groups there which had been prepared to welcome the Second Advent. Father visited one of them. One day he said to them: "If you believe Satan's word completely and absolutely to the end as God's word and if you attend him, even Satan will take you to God." Suppose you believe, learn and practice Satan's word completely and actually you attend Satan, Satan won't take you to himself but to God. Do you understand clearly? I'll explain it, taking an example. Take one brother -- Mr. Tanahashi. Now here is another brother who believes in and attends Mr. Tanahashi very much. But this brother has a misunderstanding that Mr. Tanahashi is John. He has a firm conviction that he is attending John, even though he is actually attending Mr. Tanahashi. Then is Mr. Tanahashi happy or not? Satan knows why people are attending him: they mistake Satan for God and attend him just as earnestly as they attend God. They listen to Satan's words absolutely. Then Satan can't make them his own since they believe completely that they are attending God, not Satan. Therefore Satan thinks they should go to God, not to him; Satan leads them to God. Suppose we happen to believe and follow even Satan's word as God's word; as long as we believe and follow it completely, we'll be led to God not to Satan. Father had this much faith -- it's incredible, isn't it? It's not "incredible", it's disgusting. And stupid too. The Bible says that Satan is a liar and a murderer, but Sun Myung Moon knows better than the Bible, and he is convinced that though Satan lies and murders, Satan would never be able to handle sincerity, and would politely bring people to the real God. Actually, it is not all that surprising that Moon would be so close to Satan. They have alot in common. The name Lucifer (who became Satan) actually means "Light Bearer". And interestingly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" means: "Shining Truth". But the Bible also shares that Lucifer (satan) is an angel that disguises himself as light, and appears as light, but that in actuality, he is a liar and deceiver. The Bible calls satan: "That Ancient Serpent", and "The Dragon". Similarly, Moon's name "Sun Myung Moon" (Shining Truth) is not the name he was born with. Moon changed his name when he decided to pretend to be the messiah. Moon's real name is: "Young Myung Moon" which means: SHINING DRAGON in Korean. Hmmm....no wonder Moon loves Satan so much?     STRANGE BUT TRUE - SECTION Moon & Houdini Moon's African Son? Moon's "Spiritual" Mistresses Moonie Science Satan Joins The Moonies Moon Marries Jesus, and Hitler and...   HOME

[Wrigley]

Sure. After all, they get to go to heaven too. At least in the Mormon way of thinking.

[Luna]

Wrigley, I've read your posts on the Religion forum, and I'm not going to get into with you. I learned long ago that there are two kinds of people in this world: people who are genuinely interested in one's religion and want to learn more, and people who just want to bait and debate. I don't think you sincerely care about what I believe.

[drstevej]

***"We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may."***

Doesn't prevent the youngers [elders ???] on bikes from knocking on doors unsolicited and proselytizing to their religion.

None of us here require anyone believe anything. If someone wants to worship their navel, be my guest. Don't expect me to applaud their choice. I will encourage them to trust the finished work of Christ for forgiveness and eternal life while releasing their idolatrous home-made religion.

Some FR [FR5th Amendment]s claim they are being coerced. Baloney! These are mere words. Furthermore, they are anonymous. There is no leverage.

On the otherhand, if our posting historical documents and showing doctrinal inconsistencies causes someone to waiver, then the flaw is their object of faith, not our arguments.

BUT it is easier to whine to the mods in white coats, cry victimization and hit the abuse button. And around here that works.

[Luna]

Thank you. I think I'll hit the Abuse button...

Just kidding. :)

[Wrigley]

Brave, brave luna ran away. :-)

[Alex Murphy]

I learned long ago that there are two kinds of people in this world: people who are genuinely interested in one's religion and want to learn more, and people who just want to bait and debate.

Baiting and debating are two entirely different things, Luna. Debating is a sport - have you never heard of a High School Forensics Team? I was on one, and was quite good at it, thank you. Debating - if you and your opponent can still shake hands after crushing each other mercilessly in the ring - is great competitive sport. To be successful, you have to know your opponent and anticipate your opponent's intended arguments. I definitely enjoy engaging in it, and always learn something from my opponent, even if they fail to sway my opinion to their side. Like any sport, it's definitely no fun if your opponent is mis-matched.

Baiting is what you do to get a fish to bite the hook. It's also a useful test, if it's not done in an insulting or denigrating fashion, to see if the fish are hungry. And we have answered our Master's call to be fishers of men.

It's my observation from your own posts that you don't want your opponents to return your punches. That makes them your punching bags, and I call that bashing. So I'll respect your wishes, but not your position or your debating skills. You have lost the debate, by default.

I don't think you sincerely care about what I believe.

Likewise, I'm sure. Or else you'd be asking us more questions about what we believe, and why.

[Wrigley]

Nice response.

[Luna]

I don't care what anyone throws at me.

[Luna]

Thanks.

BTW, that's one of my favorite movies.

[Wrigley]

It is a fun one.

[Alex Murphy]

I don't care what anyone throws at me.

You heard her, gentlemen. Have at it.

[drstevej]

I'll throw the sour cream, Wrigley can chunk the butter! Anybody got chives?

[Wrigley]

Incoming.

[Luna]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

That's good.

[Wrigley]

I'm not sure how long you need to cook a stone to make it edible, but I suppose its worth a shot.

[drstevej]

Caption: This SPUD's for you!

[Alex Murphy]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! That's good.

Thanks. I get overly competitive with debates, I suppose. I busted out laughing when you made the "I don't care" remark, because this was the first image that flashed through my mind. This is my hand-shaking-at-the-end-of-the-debate gesture. I had hoped you didn't think I wanted to stone you, and I was right (and I don't) :>)

"Blessed are the Cheese Makers" stands as probably the finest commentary on Bible interpretation I've ever heard. Likewise "A shoe! He has given us a sign!" is great when it comes to obedience. But the best, the absolute best commentary on miraculous healing ever uttered, has to be the guy who says "Lord, I'm afflicted with a bald patch".

On behalf of la petit cabal, I bid you Welcome!

[Wrigley]

Smashing.

[restornu]

And so it goes!

[CARepubGal]

Illbay, you are a very interesting case study. Thank you for showing the true meaning of Mormon Love. Marlowe & Delphinium, I appreciated the refresher course in the subject and hope you did too.

Oh the weather outside is frightsome, but in here it is White and Delightsome......