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This guy happens to be my favorite nonogenarian around, so I was excited to hear his talk. I know a mention of it was posted earlier, but I thought I'd put out the full text. Earlier he also gave a talk on Loyalty. I won't post it, but here is the link.
Loyalty
1 posted on 04/09/2003 8:50:12 PM PDT by sociotard
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2 posted on 04/09/2003 8:52:06 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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Thank you very much. I need reminding from time to time, too, that political differences don't justify hatred....
3 posted on 04/09/2003 8:56:44 PM PDT by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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Does anybody have stats on what percentage of Mormons join the military (especially as compared with the population at large)? I am inclined to believe that it's much lower than the general population; but correct me if I am wrong.
9 posted on 04/09/2003 10:27:04 PM PDT by Migraine (...some things really go against migraine!)
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36 posted on 04/10/2003 6:08:17 PM PDT by Bob J
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56 posted on 04/10/2003 8:39:36 PM PDT by Illbay
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Gordon B. Hinckley confirmed my belief that the Church is a center of hypocrisy when it advocates the support for War. It is clear he follows scripture writings instead of the teachings of the Lord. The Lord neither said he did not bring peace but the sword, but was written by Matthew, someone who was quite distraught to seeing his Savior freely go to the cross. As a matter of fact Jesus told them to put away their swords as he healed the soldiers ear they cut off before taking him away.

It is my belief (and have left the Church because others do not agree) that Religion represents nonviolence even in the face of persecution, for it is Jesus who followed that same course. He conquered hate by love, not by acting in violence toward his aggressor. He lives today. I say we who believe without works have no faith. Those who act in War have no faith. I stand to believe that War from Government has made Churches in America no better than the Islamic Jihad whom we claim to be antirelgious. Is not the Mormon Church the same! It is not a question but a revealed fact, as leaders and Church Presidents talk in riddles and support the framework of hypocrisy. Thanks I will not accept the model of War, let alone accept the tatoo medal of freedom from War inspired Presidents.

Please seek the Lord in his example, and you will see your error. The Lord is not hypocrisy!


115 posted on 07/17/2005 10:27:13 PM PDT by DJermano (The Lord is not Hypocrisy)
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Gordon B. Hinckley confirmed my belief that the Church is a center of hypocrisy when it advocates the support for War. It is clear he follows scripture writings instead of the teachings of the Lord. The Lord neither said he did not bring peace but the sword, but was written by Matthew, someone who was quite distraught to seeing his Savior freely go to the cross. As a matter of fact Jesus told them to put away their swords as he healed the soldiers ear they cut off before taking him away.

It is my belief (and have left the Church because others do not agree) that Religion represents nonviolence even in the face of persecution, for it is Jesus who followed that same course. He conquered hate by love, not by acting in violence toward his aggressor. He lives today. I say we who believe without works have no faith. Those who act in War have no faith. I stand to believe that War from Government has made Churches in America no better than the Islamic Jihad whom we claim to be antirelgious. Is not the Mormon Church the same! It is not a question but a revealed fact, as leaders and Church Presidents talk in riddles and support the framework of hypocrisy. Thanks I will not accept the model of War, let alone accept the tatoo medal of freedom from War inspired Presidents.

Please seek the Lord in his example, and you will see your error. The Lord is not hypocrisy!


116 posted on 07/17/2005 10:30:18 PM PDT by DJermano (The Lord is not Hypocrisy)
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