[Illbay]

I believe that it can even be arranged AFTER they are dead, in fact.

But I totally reject the notion that Jews are special due simply to the fact of their birth. God is no respecter of persons.

[Quix]

I still expect the 144,000 to be Chosen somehow according to God's own criteria.

I SOME cases, I'd probably agree with you but I wouldn't agree that it can be that way for anyone and everyone.

And I believe it's exceedingly foolhardy to pretend to one's self that one can COUNT ON SUCH A POSSIBILITY.

NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION.

[Gurn]

But I totally reject the notion that Jews are special due simply to the fact of their birth. God is no respecter of persons.

Unless they believe in the Golden Tablets that noone's seen, right? Or, if they have a penchant for polygamy and are gunning for their own planet after they die, and have a secret initiation ritual, butDON'T BELONG TO A SECT, right?

[Quix]

God being no respecter of persons seems to me to have to do with our legal worth before the Cross of Jesus.

God spends a LOT of Scriptures illustrating how his Chosen people ARE special to Him and how Believers in Christ are grafted in to that root/shoot/tree.