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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
As much as people like to malign them if it wasn't for them the Indult would not exist and the Traditional Mass would have been eradicated.

Having gotten what they wanted and fought for, why did they then separate themselves?

80 posted on 04/07/2003 8:07:07 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
They didn't. SSPX was formed in the 70s. FSSP came into being in the late 80s as an alternative to SSPX. If SSPX didn't exist, the FSSP and the other Traditional Indult Orders would not exist. The Traditional Mass would be a quaint recollection of an older generation.
81 posted on 04/07/2003 8:22:19 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: ultima ratio
You can probably answer #80 better than I can.
82 posted on 04/07/2003 8:25:41 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: tiki; Canticle_of_Deborah
If the SSPX had gotten what they wanted, why do you suppose recent talks with Rome have broken down? Clearly Rome was unwilling to grant anything more than a special canonical status. It steadfastly refused to discuss the theological underpinnings of its New Mass--which traditionalists believe are aggressively Protestant and very subversive of the Catholic faith. Rome wishes a reconciliation without any challenge to the multiple novelties it has promulgated in the name of the Church it continues to sabotage.

The SSPX is well aware of Rome's power to reneg on promises, moreover. It has already betrayed the FSSP by firing its superior general and replacing its seminary theologians. It has also begun chipping-away at the traditional Mass as well. There are more and more instances of Indult priests using lay ministers to distribute the Eucharist, receiving communion in the hands, and violating other traditional rubrics in an effort to bring the Old Mass into greater harmony with the New. Campos would be still another example in which Rome has forged an agreement with a traditional community, but then proceeded to angle more and more concessions corrupting the traditional Mass.

SSPX is wary of all this. It holds onto the ancient faith above all else and will not come under Rome's aegis until it is certain those in command reject the modernism which is aggressively destroying Catholic tradition.


100 posted on 04/08/2003 12:27:44 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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