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To: sandyeggo
Correct me if I am wrong, but is it not the lack of participation that traditionalists prefer over the numerous responses in the N.O.?

Absolutely not! The principal objections to the NO are:

1) Lack of reverence
2) The scrapping of highly poetic yet doctrinally clear traditional prayers for docrinally ambiguous and banal ones.
3) Lousy modernist music.
4) As Cardinal Ratzinger puts it, the replacing a liturgy that was the fruit of millenia of development for a fabrication of a commitee.

77 posted on 04/07/2003 7:54:02 PM PDT by traditionalist
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To: traditionalist; Canticle_of_Deborah; Land of the Irish; sandyeggo
The principal objections to the NO are:

Just out of curiosity, have you ever watched the mass on EWTN?

EWTN's Televised Mass


The Mass on EWTN is in keeping with the norms for the Roman Rite. Anyone who has been to Rome or to one of the great shrines of Europe knows this. Unfortunately in many places the great tradition of the Roman Rite is being obliterated by banal (and illicit) innovations, and de-Romanized by the elimination of Latin and Chant. The effect has been that the young have no experience of a truly Catholic liturgy and older people have forgotten it or been convinced it is "out-of-date."

By offering the Mass in Latin and English the desire of the Second Vatican Council and all Popes since the Council for Latin to be retained is satisfied. Pope Paul VI, in granting permission for the vernacular languages, stated that he wanted Catholics to retain the use of the Church's sacred language in the Proper Responses (Kyrie, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus etc.). Pope John Paul II also wants the Church's language to be used. This was repeated yet again in the latest document from the Holy See on the Sacred Liturgy, the 4th Implementing Document of the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy of the Second Vatican Council (1994). In fact, this goal is part of every document Rome has released on the liturgy, including paragraph 19 of the General Instruction to the Roman Missal (the book used on the altar). [See also Latin and English in the Mass]

EWTN broadcasts worldwide by TV and WEWN short-wave so it is appropriate that Latin be part of the Mass for that reason. Catholics who don't know English can follow the Mass by its universal structure and even participate in the universal language of the Church.

Finally, the Mass on EWTN/WEWN educates Catholics concerning the true nature of the liturgical reform called for by the Council and the popes since, and which in many cases has been co-opted by those with their own agenda. It shows Catholics the glory of the Roman Rite as it is possible even now, using the current missal. By its fidelity to the intentions of the Magisterium it thus glorifies the Father, in the Church, through Jesus Christ.


Answered by Colin B. Donovan, STL


115 posted on 04/08/2003 6:01:29 AM PDT by NYer (God Bless America. Please pray for our troops!)
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