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To: Alex Murphy
No. I asked if God does not hear their prayers.
70 posted on 03/31/2003 11:32:05 AM PST by american colleen
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To: american colleen; Alex Murphy
If by "hear" you mean "is He aware of the words they have prayed" the answer is of course, He's omniscient.

But the Bible uses the term "hear our prayers" as a metonymy of cause (the act of hearing, the cause, is substituted for the effect, the result -- a response).

Literally He does, figuratively He does not.

71 posted on 03/31/2003 11:57:51 AM PST by drstevej (Pope Peil is taking applications for Cardinal)
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To: american colleen
Mt7:9-12 --
"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets."

72 posted on 03/31/2003 12:04:00 PM PST by eastsider
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To: american colleen
No. I asked if God does not hear their prayers.

No God does not hear their prayers. In Fact they are an abomination to Him.

Prov 15:8
8 The sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Prov 15:29
The LORD is far from the wicked: but he heareth the prayer of the righteous. (KJV)

Proverbs 28:9
                     He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer [shall be] abomination

Jeremiah 7:16
                      Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither                       make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.

Jeremiah 11:14
                      Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will                       not hear [them] in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.

Lamentations 3:8
                      Also when I cry and shout, he shutteth out my prayer.

Lamentations 3:44
                      Thou hast covered thyself with a cloud, that [our] prayer should not pass through.

                  Psa 66:18
If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear [me]:

Mic 3:4  
Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.

Jhn 9:31 
  Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

(Psalm 66:18
If I had cherished sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened;

Proverbs 28:9;
"One who turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.

ISAIAH 59:2-
"But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you, that He will not hear

Jer 14:12
When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

   

82 posted on 03/31/2003 1:00:24 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: american colleen
Indulge me if you will, if I grab the wheel and spin it 90 degrees hard to the right for a moment.

You've asked a question, but you've expressed you disappointment and disgust with some of the opinions/answers you've received.

How are you deciding which answers are right, and which are wrong? What rule, what guide, what plumb-line are you using? In short, how do you know whether you are right about the nature and behavior of God?

You see, the difficult question you need to answer is "By what standards do we judge God's behavior?" What moral code can we call upon, that exists independent of Him and His creation? What judge do you appeal to, that you can sue God in front of to accuse Him of unfair behavior?

Some of us believe that God is capable of not been silent in history, and we believe His words and actions have been documented for us to understand Him by (and, to answer another charge, we believe He is fully capable of maintaining the accuracy of this documentation). Rather than insist He modify his behavior to fit our opinions, we allow him to correct our misunderstandings about Him.

All I'm saying is that you may not like the answers you hear, but that doesn't automatically mean they're not right.

98 posted on 03/31/2003 2:07:56 PM PST by Alex Murphy (Athanasius contra mundum!)
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