[american colleen]

Rome was the one killing people for being Christians. Killing them for having Bibles. Killing them for salvation by faith in Christ, just as Jesus commanded them, to have faith in Him.

OMG. Your knowledge of history is so skewed and superficial.

Ever hear how England was "converted" by the reformers? (as a small example)

[Jael]

Colleen, I don't claim the reformers. The daughters didn't fall far from the mother, since the prots still practice the heresy of infant baptism.

I am talking about Christians. I am talking about original source documents. I'm well versed on the issue and would recommend that you read the following books.

Braght, Thieleman Janszoon van (1625-1664). The Bloody Theater or Martyrs Mirror of the Defenseless Christians Who Baptized Only upon Confession of Faith, and Who Suffered and Died for the Testimony of Jesus, Their Saviour, from the Time of Christ to the Year A.D. 1600. Trans. From Dutch by Joseph F. Sohm. Scottdale, Penn.: Herald Press, 3rd English edition 1886. 1157 p.

Clark, Henry William (1869- ). History of English Nonconformity from Wiclif to the Close of the Nineteenth Century. 2 vol. London: Chapman and Hall, 1911-13.

÷÷÷. Remarks upon the Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of the Albigenses. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1821 edition, first published in 1692. 282 p.

Arnaud, DâHenri. Authentic Details of the Valdenses, in Piemont and Other Countries; with abridged translations of "LâHistoire Des Vaudois," [The History of the Vaudois] Par Bresse [by J. Bresse], and La Rentree Glorieuse des Vaudois dans leur Vallees, DâHenri Arnaud, with a Sketch of the Life of Henri Arnaud, a Sketch of the German Valdenses, and the Ancient Valdensian Catechism and Confession. London: John Hatchard and Son, 1827. 464 p.

÷÷÷. History of the Donatists. Pawtucket, RI: Nickerson, 1875. 212 p.

Bennett, James (1774-1862). The Theology of the Early Christian Church: exhibited in quotations from the writers of the first three centuries. London: Jackson and Walford, 1855.

Bingham, Joseph (1668-1723). The Antiquities of the Christian Church, and other works; with the quotations at length, in the original languages, and a biographical account of the author. London: W. Straker, 1843-1834.

Bogue, Robert H. The Dawn of Christianity: The Essene Heritage. New York: Vantage Press, c. 1986.

Bostick, Curtis V. The Antichrist and the Lollards: apocalypticism in late medieval and Reformation England. Leiden, Boston: Brill, c. 1998.

Comba, Emilio (1839-1904). History of the Waldenses of Italy: from their origin to the Reformation. Trans. By Teofilo E. Comba. London: Truslove and Shirley, 1889. 357 p.

Faber, George Stanley. The History of the Ancient Vallenses and Albigenses. London: R.B. Seeley and W. Burnside, 1838. 596 p.

Flecker, W.H. British Church History to A.D. 1000. London: G. Bell and Sons, 1913. 157 p.