Wrong gender!
I'm
Cardinal 007 Pierce Starwind (licensed to exorcise). Vatican Spokesmodel is my cover.
Posted on 03/30/2003 12:41:35 PM PST by NYer
Hand is unscrupulous. I thought that he might come back from his self-imposed layoff with a humbler and less contentious spirit. This article has dashed my hopes.
I can see where you're coming from and what you're trying to say. But I think it is not correct that "there is some truth in every monotheistic religion."
For example, what if I were to say, "There is only 1 God. His name is Maximilian. All must bow down and worship Maximilian. I am, by the way, all powerful despite the unassuming form I have chosen to inhabit, and I shall exterminate all who refuse to worship the great and powerful Maximilian."
I would be a monotheist, but there would be precious little truth in my religion. One could view Islam in the same way. They worship 1 God, Allah. But their religion is nothing but a tissue of lies inspired by demons.
Even were their religion true, it would not be the same God as our God, it would only mean that our religion is false. We believe in a Trinity. This is the very essence of our religion. They consider that blasphemy.
Would that be the Pope Peil, pocket fishers of men?
So when did Catholics start worshipping idols made from black meteorites?
Seriously, anybody that would compare Allah and Yahweh and think they are the same Entity is about as clueless as someone who would compare Bill Clinton and George Bush and think they are the same person. Just because they share the same title of "God" or "President" doesn't make them the same. The fact is that the nature of the Hebrew and Christian God can be found in the bible as easily as the nature of the Islamic God can be found in the Quran, and those natures are fundamentally incompatible.
I know who Allah is. I know its history (which, contrary to the claims of the muslims, long predates Islam). Allah is not the creator, and if Allah is another name for the god you worship, you are not worshipping the Creator.
Well, in the Kaaba where Allah is worshipped, there used to be 360 of them (Allah was the tribal deity of Mohammed's family, and Mohammed's task was the daily care of what is now the "black stone"). Of course, none of those gods were the True God, any more than Allah was.
Have you guys read the Koran?
If you had, you would know that it is not possible for a devout muslim to have a christian or a jew as a friend. You would see the hatred "Allah" has for people that the REAL God loves as his chosen people, and you would know that Allah is not really God, but just a pretender like so many others to that Throne.
(from back of room frantically waving) Oh! Pick me! Pick me!
But (pouting) I want gold robes, with little red fringes, and a red beret.
Ummm, let me see, let me see, (tugs at ear)....Ah Hah! the 4th secret of Lucy can now be revealed, that I'm to be the Vatican Spokesmodel!
Yeaahh, Vatican Spokesmodel, has a nice ring to it....it does come with a ring, right?
Wrong gender!
I'm
Cardinal 007 Pierce Starwind (licensed to exorcise). Vatican Spokesmodel is my cover.
Religion should not be used as a basis for war. We can tolerate and respect other's religion, while we disagree. If we wish others to listen to us we must be willing to listen to them.
This goes for Christianity and for Islam.
One true god and many false idols. The Hindus worship many gods ---none are the true god.
I've read that he was ---I think we only saw this Pope for what he was for only a few years and then he was shot down. His injuries were very serious ---life-threatening, he's had several operations since. I think his life has been filled with pain and most likely pain killers. Plus there is the age factor ---Reagan himself is not what he used to be. It's possible there are others in the Vatican who are taking advantage of the Pope's medical conditions.
On the matter of the current problems in the U.S. Church, it is understandable that some hoping for an orthodox revival might get frustrated with what may seem at times like less than confident signs in Rome that sufficient attention has been addressed to dealing with the vandals and pranksters who seem to be running (and ruining) things in America. One can probably question the kissing of the Koran without falling into pope "bashing." Personally, I don't think any Catholic or bishop should kiss the Koran or any other Muslim book. There are intelligent ways to debate the impact of Islam on human civilization, whether Mohammed was possessed, a charlatan, or merely another homicidal psycho from a non-Western culture. Or whether "kissing" is the appropriate way to show respect for non-Christian symbols.
Debating the personality cult of John Paul II or the effectiveness of his papacy is certainly a valid topic for discussion. But the Church is always more complicated than just the papacy or the bureaucratic manuevers in Rome. If one accepts the idea that John Paul II has been a positive hero of orthodoxy, we still have plenty of problems in the U.S. Church which seem immune to his vision of the Christian restoration of culture and civilization. Whether a differently-styled papacy would have addressed the problems of the U.S. Church, of its outrageous and absurd neo-modernism, minimalism, wreckovation, grotesque sodomy scandals, etc., that may certainly be something that will continue to fascinate the current pope's critics. Had I been Pope, God forbid, I would have publicly requested, say, Weakland's early retirement a lot sooner. Some of these debates can be useful at refocusing on what really constitutes genuine orthodoxy and genuine renewal of the Church - as the Catholic posts on FR often indicate. How to deal with the dilemmas facing Christians and others of the civilized minority in Islamic countries will remain a matter of concern for the Church for many years to come. Let's hope more Muslims choose to kiss the New Testament instead of bombs and jet fuel.
So do the Jews.
Allah is not Yahweh. Muhammed was talking to a fallen angel in the cave when he received his revelations.
Replying to your post as it is the last in a couple of responses to me.
You are taking this topic further than I did. I did not address anything about Islam other than they worship ONE God, the Creator of everything.
Do they have a poor understanding of the One God? Yes.
OMO, Muhammed was either a nut or a charlatan. His understanding of the One God was an amalgamation of him poorly and incorrectly understanding Jewish and Christian teachings. In fact, I would posit Islam as a heresy.
Muhammed believed that One God created everything. Almost everything he believed after that was off the rails.
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