[Onelifetogive]

So, are you saying that all disciples--meaning you and me--get to retain sin? You aren't making any sense.

I did't say it. Christ said it. We have to study under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to understand it.

[attagirl]

Me: So, are you saying that all disciples--meaning you and me--get to retain sin? You aren't making any sense.

You: I did't say it. Christ said it. We have to study under the guidance of the Holy Spirit to understand it.

Honestly, why do you take words only to distort them? Forget how you were taught in your Protestant interpretations.

Matt 16: (Peter) You are the Messiah, Son of living God

(Jesus answered) ...You are Peter and upon this rock I will build My Church.... Whatever you declare bound on earth shall be bound in heaven; whatever you declare loosed on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Please meditate on the above and you will see that Christ never meant for His Church to be a democracy. Furthermore, He wanted a hierarchy. (Peter is prime, then the apostles, etc.Even within those ranks there were elect--Peter, James and John having been separated out at least on 2 occasions that I can think of offhand.)

There are so many more quotations, but this one is very key.

I like your screen name. Follow Jesus as He wants us to follow Him--by joining the Church He established on earth--and your giving/living will be as He wills.