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To: Siobhan
CG probably got banned because he didn't know when to quit. He also didn't use logic, but that's neither here nor there.

I'll say this, there is a difference between being gung-ho for war and recognizing a job needs to be done. I'm one of those people. It needs to be done, IMO. I am very much afraid that once it starts, we are going to end up with another world war. This is a last resort. At some point, enough is enough. We could go on the way things are going now forever. Look what the same sort of tactic did to Cuba. Sometime it has to end. And frankly the way Hussein is leading the rest of the world around by the nose is embarassing.

As for George Bush: the man has been a fighter pilot, an honor reserved only for the best of the best and the brightest, even in the National Guard; he holds an MBA; he ran a MAjor League Baseball team and turned it into a money-maker; he ran a fortune-500 company and the state of Texas, quite well, as a matter of fact. Stupid he is not. He's not a great speaker, but who cares. He gets the job done.

This, regardless what anyone thinks, is not about oil. If it was, the best solution would be to drill our own. We have plenty. It's the response to an agressive dictator who has no regard for human life and is using religion like a Crusade, with absolutely no good intentions. There have been men like this in the past, same signs, and we did nothing and ended up still cleaning up a big mess.

So, having been attacked, not once, but multiple times, can someone in clear, concise terms explain to me how neutralizing a dangerous dictator violates the Just War Doctrine?
74 posted on 02/14/2003 6:50:45 AM PST by Desdemona (Our Lady of Guadalupe pray for us.)
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To: Desdemona
I must agree with you. How could this be about oil? The war with Iraq will cost us up to 100 billion plus. Do these people realize how much oil this would buy? In point of fact, it is the French and Germans who have taken the stances they have taken for the sake of countless illegitimate commercial contracts with Iraq on terms incredibly favorable to the French and Germans.
119 posted on 02/14/2003 8:59:07 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Desdemona
So, having been attacked, not once, but multiple times, can someone in clear, concise terms explain to me how neutralizing a dangerous dictator violates the Just War Doctrine?

It doesn't. If a madperson has killed many, has several loaded machine guns, wants to kill you and your family, and is stalking in your neighborhood (as Hussein et al have the capability of doing by transporting their weapons of mass destruction), you have the obligation to go out and to try and protect your loved ones from an attack of unrepentant evil.

120 posted on 02/14/2003 9:00:31 AM PST by yendu bwam
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