Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

George Bush's Theology: Does President Believe He Has Divine Mandate?
Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life ^ | February 12, 2003 | Deborah Caldwell

Posted on 02/12/2003 8:35:27 PM PST by rwfromkansas

In the spring of 1999, as George W. Bush was about to announce his run for President, he agreed to be interviewed about his religious faith -- grudgingly. "I want people to judge me on my deeds, not how I try to define myself as a religious person of words."

It's hard to believe that's the same George W. Bush as now. Since taking office -- and especially in the last weeks -- Bush's personal faith has turned highly public, arguably more so than any modern president. What's important is not that Bush is talking about God but that he's talking about him differently. We are witnessing a shift in Bush's theology – from talking mostly about a Wesleyan theology of "personal transformation" to describing a Calvinist "divine plan" laid out by a sovereign God for the country and himself. This shift has the potential to affect Bush's approach to terrorism, Iraq and his presidency.

On Thursday (Feb.6) at the National Prayer Breakfast, for instance, Bush said, "we can be confident in the ways of Providence. ... Behind all of life and all of history, there's a dedication and purpose, set by the hand of a just and faithful God."

Calvin, whose ideas are critical to contemporary evangelical thought, focused on the idea of a powerful God who governs "the vast machinery of the whole world."

Bush has made several statements indicating he believes God is involved in world events and that he and America have a divinely guided mission:

-- After Bush's Sept. 20, 2001, speech to Congress, Bush speechwriter Mike Gerson called the president and said: "Mr. President, when I saw you on television, I thought -- God wanted you there." "He wants us all here, Gerson," the president responded.

In that speech, Bush said, "Freedom and fear, justice and cruelty, have always been at war, and we know that God is not neutral between them." The implication: God will intervene on the world stage, mediating between good and evil.

At the prayer breakfast, during which he talked about God's impact on history, he also said, he felt "the presence of the Almighty" while comforting the families of the shuttle astronauts during the Houston memorial service on Feb. 4.

-- In his State of the Union address last month, Bush said the nation puts its confidence in the loving God "behind all of life, and all of history" and that "we go forward with confidence, because this call of history has come to the right country. May He guide us now."

In addition to these public statements indicating a divine intervention in world events, there is evidence Bush believes his election as president was a result of God's acts.

A month after the World Trade Center attack, World Magazine, a conservative Christian publication, quoted Tim Goeglein, deputy director of White House public liaison, saying, "I think President Bush is God's man at this hour, and I say this with a great sense of humility." Time magazine reported, "Privately, Bush even talked of being chosen by the grace of God to lead at that moment." The net effect is a theology that seems to imply that God is intervening in events, is on America's side, and has chosen Bush to be in the White House at this critical moment.

"All sorts of warning signals ought to go off when a sense of personal chosenness and calling gets translated into a sense of calling and mission for a nation," says Robin Lovin, a United Methodist ethicist and professor of religion and political thought at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. Lovin says what the president seems to be lacking is theological humility and an awareness of moral ambiguity.

Richard Land, a top Southern Baptist leader with close ties to the White House, argues that Bush's sense of divine oversight is part of why he has become such a good wartime leader. He brings a moral clarity and self-confidence that inspires Americans and scares enemies. "We don't inhabit that relativist universe (of European leaders)," Land says. "We really believe some things are good and some things bad."

It's even possible that Bush's belief in America's moral rightness makes the country's military threats seem more genuine because the world thinks Bush is "on a mission."

Presidents have always used Scripture in their speeches as a source of poetry and morality, according to Michael Waldman, President Clinton's chief speechwriter, author of "POTUS Speaks" and now a visiting professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.

Lincoln, he says, was the first president to use the Bible extensively in his speeches, but one of the main reasons was that his audience knew the Bible -- Lincoln was using what was then common language. Theodore Roosevelt, in his 1912 speech to the Progressive Party, closed with these words: "We stand at the edge of Armageddon." Carter, Reagan and Clinton all used Scripture, but Waldman says their use was more as a "grace note."

Bush is different, because he uses theology as the guts of his argument. "That's very unusual in the long sweep of American history," Waldman says.

Bush has clearly seen a divine aspect to his presidency since before he ran. Many Americans know the president had a religious conversion at age 39, when he, as he describes it, "came to the Lord" after a weekend of talks with the Rev. Billy Graham. Within a year, he gave up drinking and joined a men's Bible study group at First United Methodist Church in Midland, Texas. From that point on, he has often said, his Christian faith has grown.

Less well known is that, in 1995, soon after he was elected Texas governor, Bush sent a memo to his staff, asking them to stop by his office to look at a painting entitled "A Charge to Keep" by W.H.D. Koerner, lent to him by Joe O'Neill, a friend from Midland. The painting is based on the Charles Wesley hymn of the same name, and Bush told his staff he especially liked the second verse: "To serve the present age, my calling to fulfill; O may it all my powers engage to do my Master's will." Bush said those words represented their mission. "What adds complete life to the painting for me is the message of Charles Wesley that we serve One greater than ourselves."

By 1999, Bush was saying he believed in a "divine plan that supersedes all human plans." He talked of being inspired to run for president by a sermon delivered by the Rev. Mark Craig, pastor of Bush's Dallas congregation, Highland Park United Methodist Church.

Craig talked about the reluctance of Moses to become a leader. But, said Mr. Craig, then as now, people were "starved for leadership" -- leaders who sacrifice to do the right thing. Bush said the sermon "spoke directly to my heart and talked about a higher calling." But in 1999, as he prepared to run for president, he was quick to add in an interview: "Elections are determined by human beings."

Richard Land recalls being part of a group of about a dozen people who met after Bush's second inauguration as Texas governor in 1999.

At the time, everyone in Texas was talking about Bush's potential to become the next president. During the meeting, Land says, Bush said, "I believe God wants me to be president, but if that doesn't happen, it's OK." Land points out that Bush didn't say that God actually wanted him to be president. He said he believed God wanted him to be president.

During World War II, the American Protestant thinker Reinhold Niebuhr wrote about God's role in political decision-making. He believed every political leader and every political system falls short of absolute justice -- that the Allies didn't represent absolute right and Hitler didn't represent absolute evil because all of us, as humans, stand under the ultimate judgment of God. That doesn't mean politicians can't make judgments based on what they believe is right; it does mean they need to understand that their position isn't absolutely morally clear.

"Sometimes Bush comes close to crossing the line of trying to serve the nation as its religious leader, rather than its political leader," says C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, a clergy-led liberal lobbying group.

Certainly, European leaders seem to be bothered by Bush's rhetoric and it possibly does contribute to a sense in Islamic countries that Bush is on an anti-Islamic "crusade."

Radwan Masmoudi, executive director of the Washington-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, worries about it. "Muslims, all over the world, are very concerned that the war on terrorism is being hijacked by right-wing fundamentalists, and transformed into a war, or at least a conflict, with Islam. President Bush is a man of faith, and that is a positive attribute, but he also needs to learn about and respect the other faiths, including Islam, in order to represent and serve all Americans."

In hindsight, even Bush's inaugural address presaged his emerging theology. He quoted a colonist who wrote to Thomas Jefferson that "We know the race is not to the swift nor the battle to the strong. Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm?" Then Bush said: "Much time has passed since Jefferson arrived for his inauguration. The years and changes accumulate, but the themes of this day he would know, `our nation's grand story of courage and its simple dream of dignity.'

"We are not this story's author, who fills time and eternity with his purpose. Yet his purpose is achieved in our duty, and our duty is fulfilled in service to one another. Never tiring, never yielding, never finishing, we renew that purpose today; to make our country more just and generous; to affirm the dignity of our lives and every life.

"This work continues. This story goes on. And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm."


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bush; catholiclist; providence; religion
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 721-740741-760761-780781-794 last
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Admin Moderator
Thank you for revealing how incredibly uneducated and crude you really are. Can anyone take seriously a man who doesn't know the difference between a crude expression and the plain meaning of Our Lord's words? You have no credibility left.

Do not ever post to me again.

Your continuing reference to male genitalia not only proves your unbelievable ignorance but it also constitutes harrasment of me.

781 posted on 02/27/2003 10:34:49 AM PST by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 770 | View Replies]

To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; the_doc; Siobhan; drstevej
WHY did Prime Minister Horace Walpole say of the Revolution upon the floor of Parliament, "Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson"??

Horace Walpole, the gothic novelist, was never prime minister. Your condescending tone has always impressed me as coming from one with authoritative knowlege. I'm beginning to have doubts.

By the way, The KJV Study Guide published by Zoverian(?)attributes,"kicking against the pricks" to a Greek proverb that means useless resistance. It goes on to explain that when an ox kicks against the pricks on a goad, that it causes itself pain.

782 posted on 02/27/2003 5:13:30 PM PST by St.Chuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 764 | View Replies]

To: the_doc
Perhaps it sounds crazy to say that RCs were granted religious freedom because our Framers hated RCism, but it is ultimately correct. Our nation's founders had not forgotten that Catholic France had killed tens of thousands of Protestants over purely religious disagreements only a couple of centuries earlier. America's founders were determined to make sure that this Word-hating, murderous mess of Constantinism never happened over here.

I would take issue with "purely religious". Nothing in the the persecutions of the 16th and 17th centuries were purely religious. Much, if not all had a lot to do with social class, and political power. More on that later.

Thank you for inspiring me to read about the Great Awakening. It is very interesting and I look forward to reading more about and by Jonathan Edwards. Do you share my assessment that the Great Awakening was a departure from Calvinist doctrine?

783 posted on 02/27/2003 5:34:24 PM PST by St.Chuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 752 | View Replies]

To: St.Chuck; OrthodoxPresbyterian
The Great Awakening was a return to vital Calvinism.

Jonathan Edwards and George Whitefield were two of the most vigorously Calvinistic preachers in history.

784 posted on 02/28/2003 9:13:11 AM PST by the_doc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 783 | View Replies]

To: St.Chuck
The Lord did not mean genitalia here. Prick, when used elsewhere in the KJV does not mean genitalia. The Lord is telling Saul that his actions are futile. He is engaging in an activity that is similar to, and as ignorant as, kicking against a sharp stick....

I'll acknowledge that's a possibility.

I should reserve that, IMHO, your suggested reading doesn't have nearly the same Moral Weight as accusing the Pharisee Saul of a Violation of the Levitical Law; a violation which would have been immediately referent to Saul from at least three different Old Testament Scriptures --

...and I would also reserve that, given that it is a colloquial expression, I don't think that you can rule out the possibility that both colloquial meanings were implied (both "futility" and "greivous wounding").

But, I'll admit your argument, and its support in the Zoverian (probably Zondervan, no?) Study Bible, as a legitimate alternative.

You don't stick to bible terminology. You created a convoluted maze, just so you could justify an earthy Jesus and your own inappropriate language.

Now that's just absurd. I admit that it is possible that my reading of Acts 26 is wrong, but given that virtually the exact same expression is used in Deuteronomy 25: 11-12, then why would it be "earthy" or "inappropriate" for Jesus to use such an expression in Acts 26?

I acknowledge that Jesus may not have been referring to Deuteronomy 25; but supposing that He were, it could hardly be "earthy" or "inappropriate" for God to communicate virtually the same idea which was communicated by God in Deuteronomy 25!!

Horace Walpole, the gothic novelist, was never prime minister.

Yes, I mixed up my Walpoles. Robert Walpole, Horace's father, was Britain's first and longest-serving Prime Minister. Mea culpa; it happens to even the best of historians (of whom I am not), but I appreciate the heads-up for my benefit.

Your condescending tone has always impressed me as coming from one with authoritative knowlege. I'm beginning to have doubts.

Over a one-generation mis-attribution?

I'll survive. ;-)

Best, OP

785 posted on 02/28/2003 12:17:12 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 779 | View Replies]

To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; St.Chuck
If the Lord Jesus Christ could say to Saul the Persecutor, "Saul, Saul... I am your Lord and your God... why are you behaving as if you want to kick me in the balls?"... then it is fitting enough language for me, as a Protestant Servant of the Lord Christ, to likewise use when it is appropriate.

kentron, the word translated "pricks or goads":

Thayer Definition:
1) a sting, as that of bees, scorpions, locusts. Since animals wound by their sting and even cause death, Paul attributes death, personified as a sting, i.e. a deadly weapon
2) an iron goad, for urging on oxen, horses and other beasts of burden
2a) hence the proverb, “to kick against the goad”, i.e. to offer vain and perilous or ruinous resistance

The sense of the verse seems to be that God's will is much stronger than Pauls and Paul is only hurting himself like an ox kicking against the goad of the master.

786 posted on 02/28/2003 9:26:58 PM PST by DouglasKC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 785 | View Replies]

Comment #787 Removed by Moderator

To: DouglasKC; St.Chuck; drstevej; sandyeggo
kentron, the word translated "pricks or goads": Thayer Definition: 1) a sting, as that of bees, scorpions, locusts. Since animals wound by their sting and even cause death, Paul attributes death, personified as a sting, i.e. a deadly weapon 2) an iron goad, for urging on oxen, horses and other beasts of burden 2a) hence the proverb, “to kick against the goad”, i.e. to offer vain and perilous or ruinous resistance The sense of the verse seems to be that God's will is much stronger than Pauls and Paul is only hurting himself like an ox kicking against the goad of the master.

Yes, I am already aware of that.

As St. Chuck said in his #782, The KJV Study Guide published by Zoverian(?)attributes,"kicking against the pricks" to a Greek proverb that means useless resistance

I understand that the Greek Proverb means "useless resistance". Sheesh, I feel like I am re-treading old grounds here. The issue is not (only) that the Greek Expression means "useless resistance", the issue is that Luke specifically tells us that Jesus was not speaking in Greek -- rather, Luke specifically states that he is providing us with a Greek translation of the original Hebrew.

Meaning no offense, y'all can insist till you are blue in the face that the Greek Expression means "useless resistance", and I have already admitted that the translated Greek expression, provided for us by Luke in infallible Scripture, certainly carries that Implication.

I'm not asking what the Greek Expression means. I already understand that it means "useless resistance". I'm asking, "what is the implication in the Hebrew?"

As far as I am concerned, it still looks to me as though the Hebrew implication of Jesus' imprecatory admonition against Paul (remember, Jesus was speaking in Hebrew) had the Moral Force of accusing him of a violation of Levitical Law against his own God. I am prepared to be wrong -- but I haven't YET seen any arguments germane to THAT point.

In short, don't just bombard me with the implication of the Greek Colloquial, I've already admitted the point. I'm talking about the fact that Luke specifically tells us that Jesus was speaking in Hebrew. And, as I said before, I would also reserve that, given that it is a colloquial expression, I don't think that you can rule out the possibility that both colloquial meanings (Greek "futility" and Hebrew "greivous wounding") were implied.

I'm charitably willing to be proved wrong; but until somebody addresses that point ("I heard a voice speaking to me in the Hebrew language,"), this whole argument is rapidly turning into Ships Passing in the Night.

Egads.

Best, OP

788 posted on 03/01/2003 12:26:15 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 786 | View Replies]

To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Yes, I mixed up my Walpoles. Robert Walpole, Horace's father, was Britain's first and longest-serving Prime Minister. Mea culpa; it happens to even the best of historians (of whom I am not), but I appreciate the heads-up for my benefit.

But now we are faced with yet another question. If it was Robert Walpole who said " Our American cousin has run off with a Presbyterian parson." then we can deduce that Walpole was not referring to the American revolution, because Robert Walpole died some 30 years before the revolution occurred.(1745)

789 posted on 03/01/2003 9:53:32 AM PST by St.Chuck
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 785 | View Replies]

To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
"If in doubt, kill them all. God will know His own." -- Abbot Citeaux Woody.
790 posted on 03/01/2003 10:25:38 AM PST by CCWoody
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 770 | View Replies]

To: St.Chuck
But now we are faced with yet another question. If it was Robert Walpole who said " Our American cousin has run off with a Presbyterian parson." then we can deduce that Walpole was not referring to the American revolution, because Robert Walpole died some 30 years before the revolution occurred.(1745)

Actually, looking back on the development of my article, I'm inclined to lay the blame at the feet of Loraine Boettner (sorry, Mr. Boettner).

Historians Donehoo, Stohlman, and Wills all attribute the quotation to Horace Walpole, on the news of the Declaration (of which Witherspoon was a Signatory) in 1776; Donehoo in particular does record Walpole as adressing the English Parliament (Horace was a "gothic novelist", but he also was in fact an active Member of the House of Commons from 1741 to 1768, although by 1776 he would have been offering Parliament his opinion as a Private Citizen, not speaking in any official capacity).

It is not until we get to Boettner's "Calvinism in America" that Mr. Boettner, either as a simple oversight (if we are charitable) or perhaps in an attempt to "juice up" the Authority of the quotation a bit, makes Horace out to be the Prime Minister -- thus confusing him with his illustrious father.

Unfortunately, Mr. Boettner's confusilation of Horace's position with that of his father Robert has been repeated by numerous writers ever since -- including, embarassingly, me.

Sorry for the confusion... a case of GIGO.

Best, OP

791 posted on 03/01/2003 8:04:37 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 789 | View Replies]

To: CCWoody
"If in doubt, kill them all. God will know His own." -- Abbot Citeaux

The Army Air Defense slogan was "Shoot 'em down and sort 'em on the ground." or "Shoot and Sort" for short.

792 posted on 03/01/2003 8:10:14 PM PST by drstevej
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 790 | View Replies]

To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
I'll grant you that Luther must have had many changes of heart in his life. He should had recanted.
793 posted on 04/29/2003 4:36:50 AM PDT by RichardMoore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 690 | View Replies]

To: RichardMoore
Wow, old thread.

I'll grant you that Luther must have had many changes of heart in his life. He should had recanted.

Of what, in particular?

The rest, as they say, is history.

Best, OP

794 posted on 04/29/2003 7:38:38 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done our Duty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 793 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 721-740741-760761-780781-794 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson