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To: TotusTuus
No, no fight here! I always say the Fatima prayer and I think the luminous mysteries are beautiful - how can they not be inspiring and beautiful when they are scenes from the life of our Saviour?

My comment was merely to illustrate that the the rosary has undergone a growth in understanding through the centuries up until this day, although it has always retained the original intention.

But in usual lockstep, with characteristically boundless Christian love, there are some among us who distrust any change to anything Catholic that has taken place after Vatican 11, all the while ignoring the fact that the rosary has evolved for centuries and would probably be unrecognizable in its current form to Catholics who lived 500 years ago. Uhh, I think that was a run-on sentence... but you know what I mean!

I've never heard about the Fatima prayer being mentioned in Akita, but I am woefully ignorant regarding the apparitions in Akita.

41 posted on 02/12/2003 11:55:11 AM PST by american colleen (Christe Eleison!)
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To: american colleen; All
Oh, I agree. I know that others here seem to get caught up on an emotional form of "tradition" that doesn't allow for growth and you were being, shall we say, sarcastic with it? The 15 decades generally stood for the 150 psalms that monks and nuns used to pray everyday - hence the term "poor man's psalter" for the Rosary. Now there is 20 decades.

In any event, I found this here:

In 1969, Sister Agnes Sasagawa, then a postulant in the Order of the Handmaids of the Eucharist, received a message while she was praying the Rosary that had never before been seen or heard in Japan. An angelic being appeared to her and told her to pray at the end of each decade of the Rosary:

"O My Jesus, forgive us our sins; save us from the fire of hell; lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need."

This was one of the prayers given to the children of Fatima more than sixty years earlier. What was to happen several years later would further strengthen the link to the apparitions at Fatima. In July 1973, in the Japanese town of Akita, Sister Agnes Sasagawa was praying in her convent room. She was unwrapping the bandages which protected her hand which had mysteriously started to bleed. As she prayed, she suddenly heard a voice which said,

"Do not fear. Pray with fervor not only because of your sins, but in reparation for those of all men. The world today wounds the most Sacred Heart of Our Lord by its ingratitudes and injuries. The wounds of Mary are much deeper and more sorrowful than yours. Let us go pray together in the chapel."

Another interesting quote I found while searching:

"We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel."

Karol Cardinal Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II), November 9, 1976

Gives great insight into our dear Pope's spirituality and ability to see reality from the point of view of God. This quote was from before he was elected Pope. For those people who don't think our Pope is aware of what is going on, send this their way!

44 posted on 02/12/2003 12:38:01 PM PST by TotusTuus
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To: american colleen
Ohh, Another good one from the site posted above (The Akita apparitions are aproved as worthy of belief by the Church):

In the last Marian apparition at Akita, the Virgin Mary said, in part,

"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres. Churches and altars will be sacked. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord."

Sound like anything you notice happening in the Church today? The Lady doth appear to be a Prophetess!

45 posted on 02/12/2003 12:44:02 PM PST by TotusTuus
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