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To: The Grammarian
The grace that brings faith, and thereby salvation into the soul is irresistible at that moment. With regard to....Irresistible Grace, I believe, that the grace which brings faith, and thereby salvation into the soul, is irresistible at that moment:

That most believers may remember some time when God did irresistibly convince them of sin:

That most believers do, at some other times, find God irresistibly acting upon their souls:

Yet I believe that the grace of God, both before and after those moments, may be, and hath been, resisted:

And that in general, it does not act irresistibly; but we may comply therewith, or may not:

And I do not deny, that, in some souls, the grace of God is so far irresistible, that they cannot but believe and be finally saved.

But I cannot believe, that all those must be damned, in whom it does not thus irresistibly work."
-Wesley

Perhaps you can help me understand Wesley. On the one hand he says that Grace is irresistable at the moment of regeneration. Later he equivocates and says that the Grace provided at regeneration is later resistable, even perhaps, to the point of damnation. The logical conclusion is therefore that Justification continually loses it legal status dependent upon the the actions of the individual. This seems contradictory to what is written in Hebrews.

59 posted on 02/09/2003 4:42:29 PM PST by lockeliberty
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To: lockeliberty
Perhaps you can help me understand Wesley. On the one hand he says that Grace is irresistable at the moment of regeneration. Later he equivocates and says that the Grace provided at regeneration is later resistable, even perhaps, to the point of damnation. The logical conclusion is therefore that Justification continually loses it legal status dependent upon the the actions of the individual.

Well, other than the way you worded it ("continually loses") makes it seem as though there can be this gradual lessening of justification, you are correct.This seems contradictory to what is written in Hebrews.

Which part? Also, keep in mind that we are likely to end up arguing in circles around almost anything in Hebrews.

64 posted on 02/09/2003 5:48:55 PM PST by The Grammarian
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