[RnMomof7]

God ordains the means and the end..I believe God foreknew and preordained all the circumstances including the intervention of Moses with a preayer..To believe otherwise implies that God did not foreknow the plan of Salvation before the foundation of the world...and the word of God lies

[lockeliberty]

Agreed.

But that doesn't change how God would have acted if he hadn't contingently planned Moses' interaction within those circumstances. If God hadn't planned Moses' interaction then he would have certainly dispossed Israel. Thus, God geuninely planned to disposses Israel logically without the further contingent plan for Moses.

I think ponyespresso's question is about God's foreknowledge of his own foreknowledge before time. Does God's foreknowledge of Moses' actions prior to engaging creation make his anger and threat disingenious. Because we humans cannot think outside of time the only way we can consider it is through a logic tree. Thus, when we look at a set of circumstances we can understand that those circumstances will make God angry regardless of any additional contingent circumstances.

Now my head hurts and I think I'll leave the heavy thinking to those who are much smarter than I.

LOL

[ponyespresso]

God ordains the means and the end..I believe God foreknew and preordained all the circumstances including the intervention of Moses with a preayer..To believe otherwise implies that God did not foreknow the plan of Salvation before the foundation of the world...and the word of God lies

Well, I'm not really talking about anything as grand as the plan of Salvation. All I am asking is, as that generation was leaving Egypt, did God know that that generation would not see Canaan?

Or, similar situation, when God chose Moses to lead the Israelites out of Egypt, did God know that Moses himself would not enter Canaan? (Num 20:1-13)