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Priest who was present at the start reviews bold ecumenical vision of Vatican II
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| January 31st 2003
| John Allen Jnr, jallen@natcath.org
Posted on 02/01/2003 5:56:36 AM PST by Tantumergo
Jan. 18-25 marked the annual Week of Prayer for Christian Unity, and two events were among the highlights on this side of the ocean.
Paulist Fr. Thomas Stransky gave a marvelous talk at the Centro Pro Unione, the ecumenical nerve center in Rome, on Jan. 23. His topic was An Unique Case Study of Dialogue: The Delegated Observers at Vatican II.
Stransky, 72, was one of the four original staff members of the Secretariat for the Union of Christians, founded by Pope John XXIII on June 5, 1960. Stransky worked alongside Cardinal Augustin Bea, the future cardinal Johannes Willebrands, and Bishop Jean-Francois Arrighi. Bea and Righi are dead, while the 93-year-old Willebrands is seriously disabled and cared for by a community of nuns in Holland.
Stransky was president of the Paulist Fathers from 1970-78, and from 1987 to 1999 rector of the Tantur Ecumenical Institute for Theological Studies in Jerusalem.
Stransky said that over the four sessions of the Second Vatican Council (1962-65), there were 167 ecumenical observers and 22 guests. At the beginning, he said, many non-Catholic Christians were lukewarm about the very idea of a council.
Many Orthodox Christians regarded the decision to convoke an ecumenical council as an act of papal arrogance, since no council could be truly ecumenical without the Orthodox churches. Protestants, who saw the Council of Trent and Vatican I as deviations from the faith, worried that Vatican II would be another affirmation of a Rome is home ecclesiology. The Baptist World Alliance actually asked not to be invited because of concern the council would sanction a model of church/state relations justifying the persecution of Protestant minorities in Catholic nations such as Spain and Portugal.
Those cautions, over time, dissolved. One marvelous anecdote: the American Baptist delegate was Stanley Stuber, whose book A Protestant Primer on Roman Catholicism had been assigned to Stransky in his Paulist seminary to refute! In Rome, however, they met as partners rather than debaters.
Most of the observers lived in a pensione near the Castel SantAngelo, entirely taken over by the Secretariat for Christian Unity. They met in the Centro on Tuesday afternoons to discuss the conciliar schema in sessions led by Willebrands. The observers were given front-row seats at the council, received all the secret documents, took part in regular deliberations organized by Stranskys office, and had an influence on the councils work, especially the document on ecumenism. Protestant luminary Oscar Cullman put things this way towards the end: In everything which concerns the council, you have hidden absolutely nothing. There is no Iron Curtain here.
The influence of the observers was real. Cullman, Stransky revealed, was partially responsible for the famous language on the hierarchy of truths found in #11 of Unitatis Redintegratio, the decree on Ecumenism. (When comparing doctrines with one another, [theologians] should remember that in Catholic doctrine there exists an order or hierarchy of truths, since they vary in their relation to the foundation of Christian faith.) The idea came from discussions at the pensione with Cullman, other ecumenical observers, and two Catholic theologians who served as consultors Gregory Baum and Johannes Feiner. When the phrase made it into the document in the councils third session, Cullman said it represented the most revolutionary to be found, not only in the ecumenism schema but in any of the schemata.
Vatican II, Stransky said, amounted to a Catholic reform of the Counter-reformation, within limits and without schism.
Stransky said his counciliar experience suggests a three-step understanding of ecumenical dialogue. The first step, he said, is to enter inside the other church, see them as they see themselves. The second is to evaluate that way of seeing things from the point of view of Catholic tradition. The third is to incorporate those truths that the church needs for its own reformation.
Ecumenism has, of course, never lacked critics. At Vatican II the Coetus Internationalis Patrum, the conservative opposition, complained to Paul VI that the non-Catholic observers were too influential. The pope, concerned not to alienate the traditionalists, took the complaint seriously. He wrote to Bea, asking if perhaps the presence of the separated brethren and their mentality were excessively dominating the council, thus diminishing its psychological freedom. Paul emphasized that protecting the coherence of the teaching of the Catholic Church was more important than pleasing the observers. According to Cardinal Jean Villot, the secretary of state, Pope Paul considered disinviting the observers to the fourth session. Stransky said that he does not know how Bea responded, but he recalled Willebrands saying privately that, We did not invite them to particular periods, but to the entire council.
In any event, the observers returned. The popes concern never reached beyond our small sub secreto circle, Stransky told his audience at the Centro.
As evidence of how much changed over four years, Stransky cited the moving words of Paul VI in a sermon at St. Pauls Outside the Walls on Dec. 4, 1965. We are about to separate, Paul said to the observers. The council is ending. Each of you is about to take the road of return to your own home, and we shall be alone once more. Allow me to confide in you this intimate impression: your departure produces a solitude around us unknown to us before the council, and which now saddens us. We should like to see you with us always.
It was, as Stransky said, Pauls best self.
I sat down with Stransky for an interview on Jan. 28 at the Casa Internazionale del Clero, near the Piazza Navonna. I wanted to hear Stransky talk about the present ecumenical situation.
He reminded me of a line he used immediately after the council: The first challenge is to convert Catholics to the Catholic Church, by which he meant getting ordinary believers to understand and accept the ecumenical aims that had been adopted by the council. That challenge, he suggested, is still with us.
One remaining headache is inter-communion, or the sharing of one anothers Eucharist. Stransky said its a red herring to think that if you had inter-communion, all the other problems would go away. It annoys him that some churches do little for ecumenism for 51 weeks out of the year, then complain that they cant have inter-communion during the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity.
At the same time, he said, the possibilities for inter-communion should be expanded, especially in mixed marriages. The difficulties of a mixed marriage are not the fault of the couple, he said. The Christian family is divided, and we have to figure out how to live with it. Stransky pointed out that according to Catholic sacramental theology, the bride and groom are the ministers of marriage, hence a mixed marriage is communicatio in sacris, sharing in the sacraments. Shouldnt that be confirmed by sharing the Eucharistic bread? he asked.
Stransky said he believes a new push for inter-communion may come from the Third World, where the Christian churches are involved together in struggles against corruption, corporate exploitation, and injustice. Is the Eucharistic meal going to be the only thing we cant do together? he said.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism; Theology
KEYWORDS: horsesmouth; subversion; vaticanii
To: Land of the Irish; Maximilian; Polycarp; Scupoli; ultima ratio; american colleen; Desdemona
"The influence of the observers was real. Cullman, Stransky revealed, was partially responsible for the famous language on the hierarchy of truths found in #11 of Unitatis Redintegratio, the decree on Ecumenism. (When comparing doctrines with one another, [theologians] should remember that in Catholic doctrine there exists an order or hierarchy of truths, since they vary in their relation to the foundation of Christian faith.) The idea came from discussions at the pensione with Cullman, other ecumenical observers, and two Catholic theologians who served as consultors Gregory Baum and Johannes Feiner. When the phrase made it into the document in the councils third session, Cullman said it represented the most revolutionary to be found, not only in the ecumenism schema but in any of the schemata. "
Just goes to show that the "conspiracy theories" of how the faith is being undermined aren't so wild when the very conspirators boast about their exploits in the press!
Now we know where this stupid idea about a "hierarchy of truths" came from.
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posted on
02/01/2003 6:09:27 AM PST
by
Tantumergo
(Christian Order rules. UK? Truth is truth is truth is truth is truth.............)
To: Tantumergo
He reminded me of a line he used immediately after the council: The first challenge is to convert Catholics to the Catholic Church, by which he meant getting ordinary believers to understand and accept the ecumenical aims that had been adopted by the council. That challenge, he suggested, is still with us.This should come with Drudge style warning sirens. I can't believe he said it. Either they are getting more desperate or more boldly confident of their victory.
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posted on
02/01/2003 9:43:48 PM PST
by
Scupoli
To: Tantumergo; Scupoli
Stransky pointed out that according to Catholic sacramental theology, the bride and groom are the ministers of marriage, hence a mixed marriage is communicatio in sacris, sharing in the sacraments. Shouldnt that be confirmed by sharing the Eucharistic bread? he asked.Pure heresy in the name of ecumenism.
To: Tantumergo; Scupoli
Scupoli,
The first challenge is to convert Catholics to the Catholic Church,
That's what the NeoCatechumenate Way is for.
Tantumergo,
Great find!
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posted on
02/02/2003 12:40:32 AM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Tantumergo
<> T'Hell ya doing, looking for a SSPX assignment?
When it comes to a hierarchy of truths,, Paul was there LONG BEFORE Vatican Two. He spoke VASTLY different to the Galatians than to the Ephesians. He stayed at Ephesus over two years,prolly lecturing for hours every day. Of COURSE they heard a more complete message with greater explication...the folks at Galatia werent ready for that<>
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posted on
02/02/2003 10:07:03 AM PST
by
Catholicguy
(Have you read that document? There is NOTHING objectionable there..good grief)
To: Catholicguy
CATHOLIC DOCTRINE
The Hierarchy of Truths
by Douglas Bushman, S.T.L.
Catechists, evangelists, apologists and others today sometimes encounter the term hierarchy of truths. Sometimes the term is misused to imply that some truths of the faith are negotiable or that some truths are less true than others. In fact, the hierarchy of truths is merely the principle of ordering the mysteries of faith based on the varying ways they are related one another as elements of Christian revelation, as summarized in the Creed.
Because the hierarchy of truths is so often misunderstood, it is important to examine it. What follows is an examination of the principle itself, based on the teaching of the Second Vatican Council, as well as a discussion of some implications of the hierarchy of truths for evangelization and apologetics.
Hierarchy of Truths in Magisterial Texts
The first magisterial use of the expression was at Vatican II, in the context of ecumenical dialogue: When comparing doctrines with one another, they [theologians] should remember that in Catholic doctrine there exists a hierarchy of truths, since they vary in their relation to the fundamental Christian faith (UR, no. 11). This is closely allied to the axiom that the bond of faith that unites Christians is greater than the things that divide them. Here the Church recognizes that the way to agreement regarding disputed points of doctrine is the way of faith itself, grounded in essential truths about God and Christ. The hierarchy of truths also has application in the Churchs catechetical activity: This hierarchy does not mean that some truths pertain to faith itself less than others, but rather that some truths are based on others as of a higher priority, and are illumined by them. On all levels catechesis should take account of this hierarchy of the truths of faith.
These truths may be grouped under four basic heads: the mystery of God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, Creator of all things; the mystery of Christ the incarnate Word, who was born of the Virgin Mary, and who suffered, died, and rose for our salvation; the mystery of the Holy Spirit, who is present in the Church, sanctifying and guiding it until the glorious coming of Christ, our Savior and Judge; and the mystery of the Church, which is Christs Mystical Body, in which the Virgin Mary holds the preeminent place (General Catechetical Directory, no. 43).
This text excludes a misunderstanding, summarized by Cardinal Schönborn: the hierarchy of truth does not mean a principle of subtraction, as if faith could be reduced to some essentials whereas the rest is left free or even dismissed as not significant. The hierarchy of truth . . . is a principle of organic structure. It should not be confused with the degrees of certainty; it simply means that the different truths of faith are organized around a center (Introduction to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, p. 42).
The CCC employs the hierarchy of truths, linking it to the teaching of Vatican I on the mutual connections among the mysteries or articles of faith (no. 90). Vatican I taught: If reason illumined by faith inquires in an earnest, pious and sober manner, it attains by Gods grace a certain understanding of the mysteries, which is most fruitful, both from the analogy with the objects of its natural knowledge and from the connection of these mysteries with one another and with mans ultimate end (Dei Filius, Ch. IV).
Following the Churchs Creeds, the CCC identifies the Trinity as the central mystery of Christian faith and the source of all the other mysteries of faith, the light which illumines them (no. 234). Finally, the recent General Directory for Catechesis (GDC) states: All aspects and dimensions of the Christian message participate in this hierarchical system (no. 115). It goes on to mention: the Christocentric nature of the history of salvation; the Trinitarian structure of the Creed; the centrality of the Paschal Mystery, and therefore of the Eucharist, in the sacramental system; the primacy of the two commandments of love of God and neighbor in Christian moral teaching; the way the Lords Prayer is a summary of the Gospel and sum of all petitions. For Pope John Paul II, The truth that God is Love constitutes as it were the apex of all that has been revealed . . . . This truth illumines the whole content of divine revelation (Gen. Audience, Oct. 2, 1985). God is Himself love (1 Jn 4:8), and this love is fully revealed in Jesus Christ.
Theology of the Hierarchy of Truths
Gods ordering wisdom is the foundation for the hierarchy of truths. God has revealed this order to man, who by faith receives it and expresses it through propositions (CCC, nos. 156, 170). The use of propositions corresponds to the human mode of knowing: composing and dividing based on causal relations. Since the human mind grasps reality through causes, ordering what God has revealed depends upon the various ways in which cause is understood. For example, the text of Dei Filius, above, identifies an order based on the final cause or end of man: All that God has done in the economy of salvation is directed to our salvation, eternal life with God. This allows the mind to identify the order of means to end, a distinction with profound implications, for example, in doctrine pertaining to morals, sacraments, and the Church. In morals, this is verified in the Lords teaching about the Sabbath being made for man (Mk 2:27) and the Churchs understanding of the dominical obligation; in the sacraments, it is seen in Trents teaching on Baptism of desire; in ecclesiology, its application yields an understanding of apostolic authority as a divinely instituted means at the service of holiness. But at the beginning and end of all is God Himself, the first and final cause of all things. This is often expressed in Church documents by reference to Gods wisdom and goodness (or love) as the absolute starting point for all that exists and all that has been revealed (see LG, no. 2; DV, no. 2).
Since God is Three Consubstantial Persons, the doctrine of the Trinity is the central truth of faith. A Trinitarian-based hierarchy of truths must also be Christologically-based. Jesus Christ, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, is the fullness and perfection of revelation. He is the Alpha and Omega and the center of history. He is the instrumental efficient cause of the fulfillment of Gods plan, as well as the exemplary and meritorious cause of our salvation. Thus, a christocentric accent is not opposed to the trinitarian view; it is through the Incarnation of the Eternal son, his life, death and Resurrection, that the Father is revealed and the Spirit is given. Therefore, catechesis, to be trinitarian, has to be christocentric (op. cit., pp. 44-45).
Throughout the Churchs history, controversies have been the occasion for the Church to define some necessary implications of a doctrine. For example, the doctrine of Mary as Mother of God defined at the Council of Ephesus is incomprehensible without prior knowledge of Jesus Christ as true God and true man. Again, the doctrine on the human and divine wills of Christ presupposes the doctrine of the two natures of Christ. These two examples show how the hierarchy of truths is a principle of the development of doctrine.
Implications for Evangelization
The principle of the hierarchy of truths allows evangelists to build a solid foundation for the development of faith while focusing on a kerygmatic central proclamation of the Good News of Gods love revealed in Jesus Christ Who died to forgive sins. To be effective, the evangelists message must correspond to the basic questions people have about life, death, suffering, justice, love and sin. The evangelist knows that Jesus Christ is Gods answer to all questions (CCC, no. 68), and needs to be skilled in showing how all questions are reducible to a few fundamental ones. Christocentric evangelization seeks to lead people to faith in Jesus Christ who revealed Gods love and died to save us. Once Jesus is loved for what He has done for us, a person can begin to love Him in Himself, and becomes interested in all of His message, His relationship with His Father, with Mary, the apostles, etc. Vatican II affirmed the Christocentric foundation of Catholic faith when it taught that entering and remaining in the Church becomes a religious obligation, and therefore determines ones relationship with God, precisely when one sees that the Church was made necessary by Christ (LG, no. 14). The task of catechesis is to make this explicit, but this task is greatly aided by a prior Christocentric faith. A Christocentric introduction to Mary might go as follows: St. Paul taught: It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me (Gal 2:20); Christ enables us to live in him all that he himself lived, and he lives it in us (CCC, no. 521). Now Christs relationship with His mother is an essential element of his human experience. Therefore, I must also have a relationship with Mary.
The re-evangelization of people who have already heard the Christian message, including the baptized who have abandoned the practice of their faith, is a special difficulty. Two issues are involved. The first is a question of relevance of doctrine which is not perceived because of an erroneous understanding of one or several elements of Catholic faith. Through dialogue the evangelist can show that what the Church teaches is Gods answer the mystery of life. Second, the Churchs faith can appear as a list of propositions having no coherent order. The perceived lack of order is itself an obstacle, since man by nature is made to know order. If the interrelatedness of all of the doctrines regarding both faith and morals is not perceived, one can be left with the impression that it would be possible to accept one or other doctrine, and leave the rest aside (Archbishop William Levada, Origins, vol. 23, p. 739). By showing the connections among the articles of faith, the evangelist can lead a person to perceive the integrity and unity of the whole of Catholic faith.
Implications for Apologetics
The minds natural capacity to grasp causal connections and consequent order is a great asset to the apologist. Sometimes a person does not see that the denial of one truth leads to the denial of another which he does not intend to deny. By pointing out the unintended, ancillary denial, the apologist can lead a person to reconsider his first denial. Often a persons difficulty is due to an exaggeration of a truth which conflicts with another. For example, in response to claims that Catholics elevate Mary to the level of God, an apologist need simply to refer to Vatican II on the subordinate role of Mary, on her mediation being totally dependent upon Christs, and her veneration contributing to, not detracting from, the worship of God (LG, Ch. 8). Mary can only be understood in the light of Christ, though it is true that, by better understanding Marys place in Gods plan, we more fully comprehend the mystery of Christ.
Another apologetic use of the hierarchy of truths is to show how one fundamental truth sheds light on many others. For example, the truth that in the saving actions of Jesus Christ Gods love is effective necessitates the conclusion that grace brings about a real change in the human condition. This is the foundation for the Catholic understanding of the sacraments causing grace ex opere operato, and for the insistence that moral teaching is more than just an ideal at which to aim, but an obligation we are made capable by grace of fulfilling.
Another example is the relationship between Christ and the Church. Ecclesiologists point out that the early Christological heresies reappear as errors about the Church. The mystery of Christ is so closely connected to the mystery of the Church that errors about Christ implicitly contain errors about the Church. As a final example, moral theologians following the lead of Vatican II (esp. GS, no. 24) and Pope John Paul II ground Christian anthropology and morality in the mystery of the Trinity as a communion of Persons. Because God is a mystery of interpersonal communion, man, who made in His image, is made for communion based on the truth.
Douglas Bushman holds a licentiate in sacred theology from the University of Friebourg. He is director of the Institute for Religious and Pastoral Studies at the University of Dallas, and author of the adult faith enrichment program, In His Image, published by Ignatius Press.
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posted on
02/02/2003 10:11:22 AM PST
by
Catholicguy
(Have you read that document? There is NOTHING objectionable there..good grief)
To: Catholicguy
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posted on
02/02/2003 10:14:12 AM PST
by
Catholicguy
(Have you read that document? There is NOTHING objectionable there..good grief)
To: HDMZ
He reminded me of a line he used immediately after the council: The first challenge is to convert Catholics to the Catholic Church, by which he meant getting ordinary believers to understand and accept the ecumenical aims that had been adopted by the council. That challenge, he suggested, is still with us. Have you seen this yet? I'm still in shock. Even more interesting in light of your citations on the other thread.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:39:41 PM PST
by
Scupoli
To: Zviadist; Loyalist; Francisco; smevin; Grigeo; Telit Likitis; Aloysius; dsc; frozen section; ...
This is a very interesting and revealing article here.
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posted on
02/02/2003 7:43:38 PM PST
by
Scupoli
Comment #11 Removed by Moderator
To: HDMZ; Scupoli
If one searches diligently, one does find "gems" such as Ratzinger's denial of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist, Kasper's denial of the Resurrection of Christ from the dead, and Wojtyla's cult of man at the expense of God - ditto for Montini's.To which you may add:
"I'm sorry Jesus Christ did not have a good public relations office because maybe he wouldn't have had the bad problem of being crucified". --Jean-Marie Lustiger
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