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To: Land of the Irish
Michael S Rose's new book as well as his previous excellent work points the "finger" of blame, not at VAT II but at the liberal's use of " in the intent of VAT II " phraseology to ram their mindless new age and pro-secular version of what the Chruch should be.

The recent series on EWTN-" the documents of VATICAN II ", show the huge gulf between what was actually published, and what was done by the liberal clergy to change the Church in their image.

No more 1st Confession before 1st Communion in their churches ( even though it is still required ), "centering prayer meetings", butt-dropping Baptisms instead of water being poured over the head, jokes told by the Priest during Mass- none of this was from VAT II.

The horrific desecration of the church buildings themselves came from the liberals wanting to follow a ART & Architecture book that was never approved by the Church Bishops ( the removal of the Tabernacle from the Sanctuary into a small room, often hidden from sight, the removal of kneelers, etc ) and the singing of "We are god" songs instead of the proper "You are God" hymns.

Sure there is a lot to like about the older Tridentine Mass, but Vat II never meant to CHANGE the MASS itself, onnly the language used in it. Most people realize that the holding hands part is more of a "we are god" new age movement and a large distraction from the most important part of the Mass-the Consecration. But as long as there are "Liturgists" running the ops, and defrocked nuns and former priests in the Church councils running the Parishes-they above all do not want to know the real documents of VAT II.

13 posted on 01/30/2003 3:18:37 PM PST by haole
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To: haole
The recent series on EWTN-" the documents of VATICAN II ", show the huge gulf between what was actually published, and what was done by the liberal clergy to change the Church in their image.

Yeah yeah yeah, the "springtime" is just around the corner. Mother Angelica is a protestant creep.

25 posted on 01/30/2003 5:02:13 PM PST by Zviadist
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