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To: patent; maximillian
You mean like Maxmillian’s comment the other day that 99% of "Novus Ordo" Catholics are in a state of mortal sin? Somehow I doubt you objected to that.

I disagree with Maximillian's statement. I think he's a little high. Most of the old ladies that go to the Novus Ordo are probably not in a state of mortal sin. My guess is that they account for more than 1% of those who attend the Novus Ordo. It seems that the correct number should be about 90%.

53 posted on 01/28/2003 9:42:48 AM PST by Aloysius
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To: Aloysius
I disagree with Maximillian's statement. I think he's a little high.

<> I too thought I detected evidence of an intoxicant-induced estimation.<>

Most of the old ladies that go to the Novus Ordo are probably not in a state of mortal sin.

<>"It's the little ol' Lady from St. Edwina's...Pray, Granny....Obey, Granny...Pray, Pay and Obey....<>

My guess is that they account for more than 1% of those who attend the Novus Ordo. It seems that the correct number should be about 90%

<> Cool. I am a mortal sinner for hanging with the Pope.<>

54 posted on 01/28/2003 9:53:19 AM PST by Catholicguy (If we Catholics don't hang together with the Pope, we will hang lonely in Hell)
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To: Aloysius
Good grief. You won’t even answer the questions, and you whine about proof? Answer them. Your answers will be evidence enough and you know it.
What questions are you referring to? I believe you have confused me with another poster.
Not likely. See the questions in Post 30, directed to you:
The Society itself preaches this very separation, it is its reason for being. If you disagree, let me know. Also, please let me know if you prefer to be separate from your local Ordinary, and from many of the local Novus Ordo attending Catholics, and if you do have a devotion or preference for attending Mass with the 1962 missal over attending the Novus Ordo.
So, do you associate with Novus Ordo Catholics? Do you attend pro-life marches with them? Go to their Church? Or do you prefer to hold yourself entirely separate when it comes to Church life? Do you pay any obedience at all to your local Ordinary? Do you do anything with respect to him, such as even responding to the his annual appeal? I strongly doubt it, but you are free to answer as you will.

AS to the devotion to the 1962 missal, I would be more than a bit surprised to see you answer in the negative, but do you have a preference for it over the more recent missals?

You mean like Maxmillian’s comment the other day that 99% of "Novus Ordo" Catholics are in a state of mortal sin? Somehow I doubt you objected to that.
I disagree with Maximillian's statement. I think he's a little high. Most of the old ladies that go to the Novus Ordo are probably not in a state of mortal sin. My guess is that they account for more than 1% of those who attend the Novus Ordo. It seems that the correct number should be about 90%.
Hypocrite.

You complain about my rather innocuous comment that “Most attending the SSPX don’t explicitly seem to desire separation from the Pope, but they usually do seem to desire separation from Novus Ordo attending Catholics.” You complain that I should “please refrain from these types of judgments.” Then you go and judge the souls of 90% of 1 billion Catholics to be in a state of mortal sin.

Hypocrite.

patent  +AMDG

56 posted on 01/28/2003 10:07:35 AM PST by patent
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To: Aloysius
"It seems that the correct number should be about 90%."

Bearing in mind the large proportion of Catholics who use contraception these days, then you could be quite right that the numbers in a state of mortal sin are very high.

However, at least if they repent and confess their sins to a Catholic priest who has jurisdiction and faculties to celebrate the sacrament of Penance, they may be restored to the life of grace.

I feel sorry for the SSPX'ers who commit mortal sin though, because they are not able to make a valid confession unless they go to a priest who has been given jurisdiction and faculties by the local ordinary.

It does make me wonder how many sacriligious communions are taking place daily at SSPX Masses!
75 posted on 01/28/2003 3:19:46 PM PST by Tantumergo (ultimate rationalisation is when you ultimately tell yourself rational lies!!)
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