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To: Aloysius
Most folks seem to have both intentions to some degree,
Do you have evidence to support this assertion?
LOL. You disagree? I assume you would admit that you feel the second part, the desire to “participate in a Mass according to the 1962 Missal for the sake of devotion.” I would think nearly everyone, with at most a couple isolated exceptions, that attends an SSPX Mass would feel this one.

As to the first part, I suppose it could depend on your reading. Most attending the SSPX don’t explicitly seem to desire separation from the Pope, but they usually do seem to desire separation from Novus Ordo attending Catholics. The Society itself preaches this very separation, it is its reason for being. If you disagree, let me know. Also, please let me know if you prefer to be separate from your local Ordinary, and from many of the local Novus Ordo attending Catholics, and if you do have a devotion or preference for attending Mass with the 1962 missal over attending the Novus Ordo.

Oh, and on the odd chance that you need more proof regarding those who prefer a separation from us poor Novus Ordo Catholics, take a look at the posts to this thread, I can’t imagine this point would be further disputed.

Rather they object to the modernisms and other heretical practices that abound in many places that claim to be in communnion with Rome but who ignore directives from Rome on such critical areas as confession, EEM's, the General Instruction and such.
Well said. Separating oneself from the actions of modernism is not the same as separating oneself from those who are in Communion with the Holy Father.
Nice theory, but of course in practice the Society separates itself from those in communion with the Pope as well. Its own Bishops, priests, chapels, etc. No overlap, regardless of where the nearby parishes come down on the issues mentioned: “confession, EEM's, the General Instruction and such.”

Dominus Vobiscum

patent  +AMDG

30 posted on 01/27/2003 11:13:03 PM PST by patent
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To: patent
<> Doesn't the SSPX tell their supporters that attending the Missa Normativa does not satisfy the Sunday requirement?<>
35 posted on 01/28/2003 5:43:01 AM PST by Catholicguy (Mebbe Rome IS being too liberal :))
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To: patent
Most attending the SSPX don’t explicitly seem to desire separation from the Pope, but they usually do seem to desire separation from Novus Ordo attending Catholics.

I ask you again, where is your evidence to make these assertions against a very large number of people? How many SSPX chapels have you been to? How many traditional Catholics have you queried on this topic?

Until you demonstrate some basis for your broad-brush assertions, please refrain from these types of judgements. I suspect you would not want others to make similar assertions towards the faithful who attend Novus Ordo Masses.

37 posted on 01/28/2003 5:51:23 AM PST by Aloysius
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To: patent
"The Society itself preaches this very separation, it is its reason for being."

Untrue. It's reason for being is to adhere to Catholic Tradition. From the Society's view, it never left anything and thus never separated from anything. Rome makes this accusation, not the SSPX. In fact,it has made no changes in its teachings or practices throughout its existence.

43 posted on 01/28/2003 7:31:19 AM PST by ultima ratio
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