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To: Aloysius
"The priests of the Society of St. Pius X .... To the extent that they adhere to the schism of the late Archbishop Lefebvre, they are also excommunicated."

"If your intention is simply to participate in a Mass according to the 1962 Missal for the sake of devotion, this would not be a sin."

"It would seem that a modest contribution to the collection at Mass could be justified."

Okay, now I am really boggled. Why would participation in a Mass said by an excommunicated Priest not be sinful? What is the point of this excommunication if not to red alert the laity? And why would the collection be justified? This is as clear as mud. Didn't Luther get excommunicated? Didn't his followers as well? (not casting any aspersions, just trying to get sealegs on this issue.)
11 posted on 01/27/2003 4:16:19 PM PST by Domestic Church (honi soit qui mal y pense)
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To: Aloysius; Domestic Church
Great post. Thanks for the ping.

Okay, now I am really boggled. Why would participation in a Mass said by an excommunicated Priest not be sinful? What is the point of this excommunication if not to red alert the laity? And why would the collection be justified? This is as clear as mud.

DC, join the club. These letters are classic doublespeak, complete oxymorons in and of themselves. They are not designed to clear up any issues but are simply weak attempts to control a movement which is rapidly taking on a life of its own. If the hierarchy had its way, there would be no Traditional Mass. This is a movement driven by the Holy Spirit working through the laity. If not for that 'pesky' Archbishop LeFebvre, Catholics today would have no memory of our Mass of Ages. There would be no SSPX or FSSP. The Archbishop's excommunication was bogus and everyone knows it. He was 'excommunicated' for being too Catholic. He refused to submit to modernism and was 'punished'. Fortunately, just a few of the hierarchy remember something taught about eternal damnation and blasphemy so they stop short of declaring the Traditional Mass invalid. They aren't feeling too lucky these days. Restoration is at hand.

The question is rapidly becoming not "did Archbishop LeFebvre schism?" but "WHO schismed back the 1960s?" Schism by its nature implies a deviation from Catholic teaching and tradition. The Archbishop elected to stay with the status quo, the Novus Ordos elected to go their own way. Now just exactly WHO schismed?

21 posted on 01/27/2003 8:38:02 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: Domestic Church
The confusion is Rome's, not yours. They are confused because they have charged Archbishop Lefebvre with schism when his "offense" was disobedience to an improper command. In fact, he rightfully disobeyed to preserve traditional Catholicism AND THEY KNOW IT. Why do you suppose they opened negotiations with the SSPX? It is they who have the guilty hearts--not the SSPX.
26 posted on 01/27/2003 10:18:38 PM PST by ultima ratio
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