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To: Maximilian
Whether he was a satanist or not has nothing to do with the present. I think everyone has lost his way sometime or another but if he responded to the Grace of God, he became a new person. St. Augustine wasn't a very good example in his younger years and now we call him saint.

As to the present, do you have any links for this information?

17 posted on 01/20/2003 8:17:04 AM PST by tiki
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To: tiki
The problem is whether or not we've got a new religion in Rome. It's true Rome has the Pope. But Rome has also set about destroying or undermining its own past--apologizing for the Church's own history, openly contradicting the teachings of past popes, instituting brand new theologies, fabricating a wholly new protestantized Mass, re-defining the Sacraments, eliminating past devotions, reinterpreting Scripture to fit radically new doctrines, openly disobeying past councils.

It's hard to argue we don't have here a new religion. Yes, it's got traces of the old: the papacy is in place, the bishops control the dioceses, but the teachings are different and the rituals are brand new. Tradition has been systematically assaulted--in violation of the papal coronation oath.
19 posted on 01/20/2003 8:34:11 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: tiki
As to the present, do you have any links for this information?

Here is a previous thread with links to Vere's own blog where he stated all these things in his own words:
Influential Priest-Canonist is Abuser

Post #9 has links to Vere's blog where he talks about Fr. Huel's (the priest-canonist abuser) decisive influence on his career, his interest in horror novels, drinking games and professional wrestling, and his teenage dabbling in Satanism. In post #96, "Theosis" who says he is a friend of Vere's and appears to have signed up on FR just to defend him, admits:

Actually Polycarp, HDMZ is correct in stating that Vere is an admitted former teenage satanist. This is often overlooked in his conversion story since he doesn't like to dwell on it. In fact, I was a little dissapointed that he barely gave more than a paragraph to it in his conversion story which was just published.

I can overlook the teenage Satanism, but what I find most troubling is the fact that Vere's acknowledged intellectual mentor was not only an admitted homosexual abuser, but was perhaps the foremost liturgical destructor who toured the US and Canada promoting his program of innovation under the banner of "creating a path by walking on it."

As to his current hobbies of drinking games, horror novels and professional wrestling, I find these things relevant only to the extent of questioning whether he truly has "matured" beyond his youthful indiscretions.

20 posted on 01/20/2003 9:59:00 AM PST by Maximilian
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