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<>You will have to excuse my Christian friends.

They were raised with a certain history they can't let go of. They read the Early Church Fathers and they think those Church Fathers attest to such things as the Mass, Sacraments, Papal Primacy, Purgatory ect.

I think those of us who REALLY know the history, know that right from the get-go, Jesus established His Christian Church purely on an act of will and truth was immaterial.

Look, what you believe is immaterial. Let's all admit that and move on to Faith. Faith is nothing but an intellectual and spiritual assent that Jesus IS Our Lord and Saviour and that He has done everyting and there is nothin for us to do. You will have to excuse Aquinas and conservative, they are just do-gooding pagans. What the hell do they know, compared to you?<>

you wrote"What the hell do they know, compared to you?<>"

All I ever knew was that when I accepted Christ, a great light came into the darkness of my being, and at times when I've stumbled, the light was lessened, when I walk in faith, the light is greater....(carrot and stick!)

A great revival is needed amongst believers in Christ of all back-grounds, the times are dark and those who love dark-ness are more detirmined then ever to snuff out the light...not that they'll succeed, but many who need God, who need to hear the truth, are not getting that truth because of the distractions our various churches are caught up in....I've used scripture (foundational) ones to support my views and I am aware that I am not God, I don't know every thing...but there is a "temple of living stones" that Christ is building across space and time...and the gates of Hell shall not "prevail against it!"

Your above comment was pointed at me, I realize it, but let me turn it back to you; it's the "HELL" lost souls don't know about, that should concern you and me, and our poor sad churches(Catholic and Protestant).

Lest you think my handle is a pseudonym, My name is Michael D. Mathis, I am an RN and living in NY State. I'll put my name on the line and confess Christ publically, as Lord, GOD IN FLESH, and my Saviour. Am I perfect?...naaaah, indeed, God being the master of all, "what the hell do I know?"