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To: Aquinasfan
"When Paul wrote letters to various churches, did he have authority over them? "

Paul didn't seem to think so

Col 1:24-25 24 Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church. 25 I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you the word of God in its fullness-- (NIV)

1 Cor 9:27 27 No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize. (NIV)

1 Cor 2:1-3 1 When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. (NIV)

Strange words from a man who would claim authority in the context you're trying to put it in.

While we're at it let's look at Peter

1 Pet 5:1-3 1 To the elders among you, I appeal as a fellow elder, a witness of Christ's sufferings and one who also will share in the glory to be revealed:

2 Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers-- not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve;

3 not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. (NIV)

Granted Peter and Paul were at a disadvantage not having the writings of the early church fathers as you do. They obviously had no idea how much power was to be bestowed on them.

122 posted on 01/17/2003 10:47:42 AM PST by Joshua
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To: Joshua
Col 1:24-25 24 Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.

His body? (not "bodies")The church? (not "churches")

(Then as now there was one Church but many churches, as in local churches.)

2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings[ 2:15 Or traditions] we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

Should the Thessalonians have held to the teachings Paul passed on by word of mouth or by letter? Why? What authority did Paul have to command obedience to his teachings?

126 posted on 01/17/2003 11:07:31 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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