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To: livius
Certainly, in the new Mass there is nothing that could offend Protestants in any way."

What in the "old" mass was offensive to Protestants? Were those elements eliminated?

35 posted on 12/28/2002 9:08:17 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
That you don't know what it was in the old Mass that was offensive to Protestants is an indication of how lost you are on this issue. Protestants 1) objected to the doctrine of Transubstantiation and the Real Presence; 2) objected to the concept of the Mass as a reenactment of Christ's sacrifice on Calvary; 3) objected to the doctrine of the continual need for expiation for our sinfulness. These central Catholic doctrines--which Trent insisted on--have been suppressed in the New Mass. Liturgists will insist they are still present--but they are beliefs which have been made virtually invisible, overwhelmed by the memorial meal aspects of the Mass and made secondary within the liturgical action. This is why the concept of a priest (he who makes sacrifice) is subordinated to the activity of his presiding; it is why genuflections and kneelings (showing adoration of the Real Presence) have been eliminated; it is why the Offertory (Christ's offering of Himself to the Father in expiation for our sins)has been eliminated. All this is nothing short of blasphemous and profoundly unCatholic.
38 posted on 12/28/2002 11:01:36 PM PST by ultima ratio
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